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Not to make excuses for them, but doing a book like this, where additional material is constantly unearthed, can be a daunting task. And he's running at least 2 businesses, while traveling to and attending comic cons. We ought to cut them a break. I mean look at the wonderful web site with all those great pedigree books to view. That alone is a pretty good beggining.

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Not to make excuses for them, but doing a book like this, where additional material is constantly unearthed, can be a daunting task. And he's running at least 2 businesses, while traveling to and attending comic cons. We ought to cut them a break. I mean look at the wonderful web site with all those great pedigree books to view. That alone is a pretty good beggining.

 

I'm sure he is busy but this book is years overdue. Shouldn't promise what you

can't or won't deliver.

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Not to make excuses for them, but doing a book like this, where additional material is constantly unearthed, can be a daunting task. And he's running at least 2 businesses, while traveling to and attending comic cons. We ought to cut them a break. I mean look at the wonderful web site with all those great pedigree books to view. That alone is a pretty good beggining.

 

I'm sure he is busy but this book is years overdue. Shouldn't promise what you

can't or won't deliver.

 

Especially when they was collecting advance payments from collectors for this book several years ago.

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Not to make excuses for them, but doing a book like this, where additional material is constantly unearthed, can be a daunting task. And he's running at least 2 businesses, while traveling to and attending comic cons. We ought to cut them a break. I mean look at the wonderful web site with all those great pedigree books to view. That alone is a pretty good beggining.

 

I'm sure he is busy but this book is years overdue. Shouldn't promise what you

can't or won't deliver.

 

Especially when they was collecting advance payments from collectors for this book several years ago.

 

I'm not making excuses for Matt, but in fairness, I've come to appreciate how it can be much easier to make promises based on passion for a project than to actually deliver the finished product.

 

Allow me this example for context: As a long time member of the Serial Squadron I made a cash pledge for a club edition of the Drums of Fu Manchu serial which was to be remastered from a near pristine studio print.

 

That was over 10 years ago. :gossip:

 

The site owner/restorer took years to obtain the sought after print and even after that shelved the project several times. Just last year he completed the digital restoration which was fraught with problems and he's still in the process of final authoring! To add to the frustration, during the interim many other serials were pledged, remastered and released on DVD by the club while I patiently waited.

 

As a collector who paid up-front for this over a decade ago, the snail's pace should've made me angry. But I've come to the conclusion that these labor of love projects take an incredible amount of dedication and money to reach fruition. Since there is limited public support to get them off the ground, much less finished and marketed, it mostly falls on the shoulders of one or more authors trying to balance business and family responsibilities. (shrug)

 

Just my 2c

 

 

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Not to make excuses for them, but doing a book like this, where additional material is constantly unearthed, can be a daunting task. And he's running at least 2 businesses, while traveling to and attending comic cons. We ought to cut them a break. I mean look at the wonderful web site with all those great pedigree books to view. That alone is a pretty good beggining.

 

They could always release the book and periodically publish a revised edition or some type of quarterly-style update similar to what Overstreet did with the price guide a few years back. (shrug)

 

How about publish online and sell a yearly subscription? They could update whenever they like... (shrug)

 

I would seriously like to have this material, but this delay is now, what......3-4 years past original publish date???

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As a collector who paid up-front for this release set over a decade ago, the snail's pace should've made me angry. But I've come to the conclusion that these labor of love projects take an incredible amount of dedication and money to reach fruition. Since there is limited public support to get them off the ground, much less finished and marketed, it mostly falls on the shoulders of one or more authors trying to balance business and family responsibilities. (shrug)

 

Just my 2c

 

 

a guy was going down his porch steps one morning, and saw a snail on the bottom step. he picked it up and hurled it as far as he could into the woods adjacent to his house.

 

6 mos. later the guy was going down his steps one morning. he saw a snail on the bottom step. the snail said "what the hell did you do that for?"

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As a collector who paid up-front for this release set over a decade ago, the snail's pace should've made me angry. But I've come to the conclusion that these labor of love projects take an incredible amount of dedication and money to reach fruition. Since there is limited public support to get them off the ground, much less finished and marketed, it mostly falls on the shoulders of one or more authors trying to balance business and family responsibilities. (shrug)

 

Just my 2c

 

 

a guy was going down his porch steps one morning, and saw a snail on the bottom step. he picked it up and hurled it as far as he could into the woods adjacent to his house.

 

6 mos. later the guy was going down his steps one morning. he saw a snail on the bottom step. the snail said "what the hell did you do that for?"

hm

 

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.But I've come to the conclusion that these labor of love projects take an incredible amount of dedication and money to reach fruition. Since there is limited public support to get them off the ground, much less finished and marketed, it mostly falls on the shoulders of one or more authors trying to balance business and family responsibilities. (shrug)

 

 

I believe you've hit the nail on the head with your closing comments.

 

This is a labour of love and as a result, has simply fallen between the cracks of his business and family responsibilities which have much higher priority for now.

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Hi everyone!

 

Now that Stephen Ritter and I are here together in Dallas, Worldwide is off and running and the new year is upon us, we’re both racing to the finish line on our Pedigree book. First off, let me give a big Thank You to everyone for being patient, and especially to our advertisers whose support has, and will make this project a success. When I started this back in 2003, I had no idea how much of an undertaking it is to write a book. Stephen and I work on the book only in our spare time, time which seems to be continually shrinking day to day.

 

So going forward, we decided now would be the perfect time to start an official pedigree thread to provide updates, ask research questions, and create a place for everyone to post thoughts, comments, etc. To start off, we pose these five questions below to anyone reading. Feel free to either respond here, or contact us privately if that is your prerogative. My email is matt@comicpedigrees.com, and Stephen’s is Stephen@wwcomics.com. The more response we get to our questions, the more questions we will post.

 

Comicpedigrees.com, the official website for the pedigree book has also been updated, which now includes a checklist of where we’re at with each of the 48 collections. This list will be updated as we progress with each story. Our hope is to have the book finished and out during this year’s convention season.

 

We’ll be checking this thread almost every day, but please give us at least a day or two to post, as we tend to get swamped at work. Stephen is leaving for the NY show on Saturday, and I’ll be at Ponscon all this weekend, followed by my trip to NY next Tuesday. Of course we’ll be set up with our huge inventory from wwcomics.com, and I’ll be doing my on-site proscreens for pressing and restoration for classicsincorporated.com. (shameless plug)

 

Without further ado, here are the first five questions of the thread:

 

1. Did anyone buy any key issues from an antique dealer couple named the Thompsons in the '70s? The collection they purchased would go on to be considered the Kansas City pedigree, which happens to be the oldest pedigree among our 48.

 

2. Can anyone provide scans of Kansas City books?

 

3. Has anyone ever seen a San Francisco pedigree copy from the Nedor/Standard/Better publisher before?

 

4. It appears that the Pennsylvania collection original list is lost. Does anyone know of big key issues from this collection?

 

5. Does anyone have contact info for Bob Gray, broker of the Twilight collection (owner of Twilight Book and Game Emporium, Syracuse, NY)?

 

Thanks for reading…I hope we see some interesting feedback and discussions here.

 

Matt Nelson

 

 

 

I had really been looking forward to seeing this book, I even brought over a writer friend to Matt/Steve's booth, about 3 years before this announcement (in case they needed help) but I was assured they had it covered.

 

What I find curious, is the hype about checking in almost every day, then 4 posts and nothing else...

 

and the advertisers :shrug:

 

My guess is, this is a project that will not really see print, other things are probably more lucrative, and families do take time.

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..My guess is, this is a project that will not really see print, other things are probably more lucrative, and families do take time.

 

I fully agree as they simply have much more highly profitable pressing business concerns for the forseeable future. :P

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It will definitely see print. Steve and I are constantly discussing it, but we just have not had the time to finish it. Business and personal lives suck up every available minute right now.

 

What is left to do is write the last stories listed on the pedigree site. Easier said than done, because each one requires several phone calls, data crunching, drafts, picture layout, etc. After the stories are done, then I can write the front and back part of the book, which is basically the overview, compare and contrast of all the pedigrees.

 

I scheduled work to resume on my end right after the NY show in October, but here we are two months later, and work has not slowed down at all. December may as well be July. Which I'm thankful for, but it's preventing me from putting time in to get the book done.

 

I'm now pinning my hopes on January to March to devote to the book. One of my biggest pet peeves is not finishing something I start, so this will be done, come hell or high water. I had no idea writing this kind of book would be such a massive undertaking.

 

Hang in there everyone, it will see print.

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It will definitely see print. . .

I'm now pinning my hopes on January to March to devote to the book. One of my biggest pet peeves is not finishing something I start, so this will be done, come hell or high water. I had no idea writing this kind of book would be such a massive undertaking.

 

Hang in there everyone, it will see print.

 

:applause:

You'll have a ready audience when it does!

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It will definitely see print. . .

I'm now pinning my hopes on January to March to devote to the book. One of my biggest pet peeves is not finishing something I start, so this will be done, come hell or high water. I had no idea writing this kind of book would be such a massive undertaking.

 

Hang in there everyone, it will see print.

 

:applause:

You'll have a ready audience when it does!

 

Matt- I will take five copies. jb

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It will definitely see print. Steve and I are constantly discussing it, but we just have not had the time to finish it. Business and personal lives suck up every available minute right now.

 

What is left to do is write the last stories listed on the pedigree site. Easier said than done, because each one requires several phone calls, data crunching, drafts, picture layout, etc. After the stories are done, then I can write the front and back part of the book, which is basically the overview, compare and contrast of all the pedigrees.

 

I scheduled work to resume on my end right after the NY show in October, but here we are two months later, and work has not slowed down at all. December may as well be July. Which I'm thankful for, but it's preventing me from putting time in to get the book done.

 

I'm now pinning my hopes on January to March to devote to the book. One of my biggest pet peeves is not finishing something I start, so this will be done, come hell or high water. I had no idea writing this kind of book would be such a massive undertaking.

 

Hang in there everyone, it will see print.

(thumbs u
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