Originally Posted By: tth2
 Originally Posted By: lou_fine
 Originally Posted By: SilverRich
 Originally Posted By: Ze-man
 Originally Posted By: buttock

I want to clarify that I'm not calling CGC "liars", simply that I don't think that anyone can reliably claim to detect or rule out trimming when done well. I think in some cases, there are probably tell-tale signs, but I'm sure there are probably just as many cases with no signs. Therefore a CGC "OK" doesn't mean it's not trimmed. Nor would an OK from anyone else.


I don't mean to sound glib, but what then? What do you do with a book that nobody can tell if it's been trimmed?




If nobody can tell it's been trimmed, I imagine one must assume it hasn't been trimmed.

If a tree falls in the forest... \(shrug\)



Yes, does it really matter at this point and who really cares?

Especially if nobody (including CGC, Susan, Matt, or whoever) can tell if it's been micro-trimmed or not. After all, every single book has been trimmed at the printer's already.

So once again, if it's in a blue slab and NOBODY can tell if it's been micro-trimmed or not, then who really cares and why even give it a second thought. If you are going to be afraid of ghosts at every corner, you may as well find another hobby and give yourself some peace of mind.

Believe me, at this point the book has not been destroyed!

I have to be honest with you Dean, your line of reasoning gets kind of tiresome. So again, what's your solution? Because at this point I'm not sure what you're advocating other than that we should all be paralyzed by fear of what is possible, which I'm not sure is really a solution.


Tim;

What I am saying is that if it has gone through all of the checks and through everybody's hands and still comes out as untrimmed, why can't we simply accept the fact that the book is not trimmed. This is the best solution that we have at this point in time.

If you still insist that the book is trimmed even if it has been given a clean bill of health by everybody else and you also can't tell yourself, then this may not be the hobby that you should be pursuing as there's no point in collecting in fear.

Actually, I don't find that my line of reasoning is that tiresome since it appears to be quite similar to yours.