Bammer and others that may not be knowledgeable on GSA holders only registry sets. I think it's great that everyone here has the right to their opinion but in this case more homework might be required. The "Morgan Dollar GSA holder Only" sets have NEVER allowed ANY coins except those gradedby NGC. The problem is due to a glitch or some bug in the Registry. The GSA holders are large black original govt packaging with a NGC band wrapped around the case; they are not and have never been removed from the cases. But the members I referred to as "cheaters" placed coins in these slots/sets that are NOT supposed there; now, the past or future. Bottom line: PCGS has never been allowed in these sets because PCGS has never certified GSA hard packs. So when you put any TPG (including NGC) coin in the standard size "new" slab into a slot clearly labeled for HARD PACK ONLY (OGP) and receive points that is CHEATING. I have no chance of ever being in the top 5 & don't care at all about total points but just enjoy seeing how close I can get. Also, Mr. Bammer you should never apologize for disagreeing. I do understand all the "hoop la" concerning the PCGS coins being removed but honestly it doesn't effect my sets so I pick my battles carefully.
So for your very small niche collection of GSA coins it may be considered "cheating" to put in a coin that isn't graded by NGC. Albeit artificial, as the PCGS items are still the correct coins, just not coins in the right holder with the right label.
Your complaint is one of coins with the wrong type of packaging or label being put in a very specific slot. Most of the rest of us are complaining about our coins that happen to be in PCGS plastic not being allowed to be a part of our registry set. Again, remember, this "registry points game" isn't the driving factor why many of us create sets. I like to be able to show my coins to others, and to see the coins of others...and to be able to track in a clear way my collecting goals. The points issue is secondary in my book, in which case, it's hard to "cheat" at something that's not a game.
First of all, let me say I should have been more specific. Muscle cars is right, I should have been explicit and said allowing PCGS coins in our registry sets. I have 2 Morgan CC dollars in hards packs, one is graded and the other will be. So after reading everything, I would agree with Muscle CAr and would say sliding a NGC band on a PCGS graded coin, I would consider that cheating myself. I will write better replies in the future. It seems semantics (while always important) can get me in trouble at times.
However, I will reiterate, as far as the rules allowing PCGS coins in registry sets I will stand firm. I should have mentioned in my previous post, I joined the CS in 2006, and from then until NGC made the decision late last year about the world sets being "PCGS free", the rule has always stated PCGS were allowed. Quite frankly, NGC trumpted this as a very BIG reason why someone (me in this case back in 2006) should join NGC as opposed to the PCGS collector's club.
So, I feel in this case a minority of people who decided for their sets they wanted to be NCG only is now forcing it on everyone. How someone decides to make their personal sets and spend their money is entirely their business and their personal choice. To force that on me by whining to NGC, saying everyone should have only NGC coins in their sets is what I'm complaining about. It took away my freedom of choice.
Hopefully this long post has made my stance more clear. Again, I agree with muscle-car's conclusions as far as the hard pack dollars are concerned.
Thanks for the posts. This feature was added based on feedback we received from Registry users who wanted to compete in an exclusively NGC Registry.
For those that want to continue to use the classic view of the NGC Registry no change needs to be made. The "All Coins" view is the default. If you want your sets scored only based on NGC-certified coins, simply click "NGC Coins." Your setting will be saved if you are logged but you can switch back to the "All Coins" view at anytime. We believe that this feature allows the best of both worlds.
There are no plans to exclude PCGS-certified US coins from the NGC Registry at any point in the future. This is just an optional view for people who want to see scores and ranks for NGC-certified coins only. You can read more about these enhancements here.
We plan to continue to release new features for the NGC Registry that make it more fun and appealing to collectors.
#5860342 - 07/19/1202:12 PMRe: Morgan hard packs and PCGS
[Re: Max Spiegel]
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Thanks Max for the update. I am curious, however, in reference to end-of-the-year awards. Will the NGC and PCGS coins be grouped or, separated into each appropriate catagory.
i.e.: I appear to be listed as #1 in the NGC certified Proof 70 Sacagawea compitition sets. Will I be in compitition with PCGS coins?
Thanks for all of the provided posts. I learn something new each time I review them.
Thanks for the posts. This feature was added based on feedback we received from Registry users who wanted to compete in an exclusively NGC Registry.
For those that want to continue to use the classic view of the NGC Registry no change needs to be made. The "All Coins" view is the default. If you want your sets scored only based on NGC-certified coins, simply click "NGC Coins." Your setting will be saved if you are logged but you can switch back to the "All Coins" view at anytime. We believe that this feature allows the best of both worlds.
There are no plans to exclude PCGS-certified US coins from the NGC Registry at any point in the future. This is just an optional view for people who want to see scores and ranks for NGC-certified coins only. You can read more about these enhancements here.
We plan to continue to release new features for the NGC Registry that make it more fun and appealing to collectors.
I like it, just don't pull the rug out by completely banning PCGS. If you want to award based just on NCG that's fine with me also Wheat
#5860788 - 07/19/1205:06 PMRe: Morgan hard packs and PCGS
[Re: wheat'swheats]
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Up 20 words per minute since I signed up
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Loc: Chesapeake Bay Shore
I like the feature but I hope that the awards will continue to go to the best sets with the best coins and not base it upon slabs ( not that I aspire to any #1 sets anyhow but just saying on principle as a COIN collector)
