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#5821315 - 07/03/12 10:45 PM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: aardvark88]
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Use the web. Comic printing costs = ridiculous and web costs = trivial.

My wife wanted to get print copies done of her indie book, but when we compared getting a few hundred printed to getting hosting for even like 3 yrs, it wasn't even in the same ballpark.

Then, if you get a following, you can transition into print from there.

We're still working on that last part...


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#5821403 - 07/03/12 11:11 PM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: aardvark88]
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Registered: 05/31/10
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If you wanted to go the graphic novel route, you could pitch your idea to a traditional trade publisher. This was a project that I was a part of that went that route:

Secret Identities

The team that put this together pitched The New Press and got an advance to get the first book off the ground. I have scripts in Vol 1 & 2.
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#5821444 - 07/03/12 11:30 PM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: unmovedmover]
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 Originally Posted By: unmovedmover
Use the web. Comic printing costs = ridiculous and web costs = trivial.

My wife wanted to get print copies done of her indie book, but when we compared getting a few hundred printed to getting hosting for even like 3 yrs, it wasn't even in the same ballpark.

Then, if you get a following, you can transition into print from there.

We're still working on that last part...


http://www.ninjapea.com



This would probably be the best route to go, as it will build the fan base you need to support a kickstarter later if you wanted to publish. Once you have the web comic fan base you can test the waters with a 10 page preview + extra fluff and self distribute it through comic conventions (VIP, goodie bags, or freebies at badge pickup).

Printing can be expensive but once you have the money for it the actual numbers to print are not much of a factor (this is old info but the difference per, between 1500 and 4500 was only 5c ea, which brought the total cost from 15c to 20c). I would suggest if going to the print route look for local printers first instead of those on the internet, for an underground low run book it is always more beneficial to have first hand experience with someone you can actual see in person.
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#5821452 - 07/03/12 11:33 PM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: Bleuhawaii]
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Back in the day, Ken Langraf used to self publish a few books and sell out of a shopping cart. I didn't believe his claims so I accompanied him while he walked the Lower East Side of NY and watched as he distributed bricks of 100 books to bodega after bodega. Books had a $1 cover and he'd get $25 up front and the other $25 when he returned with the next batch. The owners always thought they were getting over as they seldom paid the last $25, but Ken was getting 25 cents per copy which gave him a $10 profit per bundle. He'd move thirty or forty bundles in a long day, then head uptown or to brooklyn and the Bronx. Good money for a struggling artist in 1985.
His NYC Outlaws #1 was carried by all the major comic distributors and sold about 3,000 copys in the diredt market. He'd sell more in a day of hitting bodegas, record and head shops.
Not every artist is blessed with living in a city of ten million people, but where there is a will, there is a way.
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#5821561 - 07/04/12 12:24 AM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: Bodhi396]
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here ya go.


Lulu for books.

http://www.lulu.com/



and Magcloud for magazines,or comics.

http://magcloud.com/


Doesnt get easier than this.
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#5821756 - 07/04/12 03:17 AM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: montrealfilmguy]
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Registered: 05/21/09
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I edited and lettered an independent in the early 90s. Digressing here, but we had some wins for us, Linsner did a cover for us and we got the first original Boris Vallejo comic cover, not comic magazine, ever. We actually did pretty well, our art director too well in fact. At least from our perspective. He got picked up by McFarlane toys and later, for those that know the toy biz, he and three others left McFarlane to form the Four Horsemen. After he left we couldn't find another artist to match him and everything folded.

Things have changed a lot since then. As others have mentioned printing costs have gone up as well as Diamond minimums for solicitations in Previews. Also as others have mentioned the cheapest thing to do is establish a web comic done on a regular bases and build up enough fan base to earn add revenue to then publish your web comic in trade form.

Best case in point would be Girl Genius by the Foglio's. Even having done print comics before they decided the better way to go was web.
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#5821757 - 07/04/12 03:19 AM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: Dr. Balls]
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 Originally Posted By: Dr. Balls
I'm currently trying to figure out how to make a ultra-violent 48 page story with aliens, barbarians, space-travel all with no spoken dialogue or narration marketable.



I'd buy that!

Wasn't there a prestige format Batman book in the early 90's with just one baloon bubble in it?
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#5821818 - 07/04/12 04:40 AM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: Dr. Balls]
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 Originally Posted By: Dr. Balls
I'm currently trying to figure out how to make a ultra-violent 48 page story with aliens, barbarians, space-travel all with no spoken dialogue or narration marketable.




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#5822030 - 07/04/12 09:31 AM Re: Producing Your Own Comic? [Re: GetMeOutOfHere]
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I thought about it for awhile but seemed too far out of reach.Here is some of my chicken scratches though.



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