Page 3168 of 3168 « First<31643165316631673168
Topic Options
#8838858 - Yesterday at 12:55 PM Re: PROBATION DISCUSSIONS [Re: ChiSoxFan]
thehumantorch Online   happy


TOTAL NEWBIE


Registered: 03/23/05
Posts: 22450
Loc: Alberta Canada
 Originally Posted By: ChiSoxFan
 Originally Posted By: Kevin76
I remember when this probation was in the works and being made, I thought it was stupid and 15 years later I still think it is, The buyer has a right to change his/her own mind. Ever walk into your local grocery store, drop something in your cart then when you get to the check out you put it back instead of buying? Same thing. The store doesn't "black list" you. If the buyer doesn't want to buy it and gets cold feet, or if the seller gets cold feet at the last second, neither should be put on a list for it to "warn other members" The whole system set up here is absurd. CGC forum states that they aren't responsible in any transactions that take place, but they'll put you on a list? Give me a break.


The huge majority of the people on the probation list aren't on there because they "changed their mind". I managed a retail store for a number of years, and your comparison is completely off-base. The majority -- again, not EVERY single case, because no one situation is necessarily 100% similar -- are more akin to the people who tried to switch price tags on a item to get it for a lower price, or people who tried to return merchandise they stole to get store credit, or people who flat out tried to shoplift, or people whose behavior in dealing with a transaction was so out of line, that they caused a major disruption to the running of the store. THOSE people were essentially blacklisted, at least from the stores I managed.

Using a rare example as a means to ridicule a means to protect buyers and sellers from potentially dealing with persons who are going to end up being nothing but trouble is what's absurd. And "CGC" isn't putting you on a list, and if in 15 years you haven't figured out that, well no offense, that's kind of absurd as well.

If you want to deal with any number of the scammers, flakes, or bad seeds that have found their way onto both of those lists over the years, no one is stopping you. However, thank you for alerting me that, if I list a $400 book at some point down the road in a sales thread, you claim it, and then two weeks later after ignoring PM's finally come back with, "Nah, bro -- don't want it no more" and cost me a sale to someone else, that you'll see nothing at all wrong with what you did, then for one, I won't need "CGC" to put you on a list -- you'll be on my own personal "do not deal with" list.

The lists aren't perfect -- NOTHING in this world is perfect, for pete's sake -- but I'm continuously shaking my head at the people who ridicule what's largely been a deterrent to people pulling shady behavior, and a warning to members about people who may be problem customers. You don't like it -- fine, don't reference it and take your chances. But ridiculing it isn't productive -- you don't like it, come up with something better to help self-police the sales forums. If you can't, then all you're saying is nothing but noise.

end rantrant


Great post.
_________________________
Just In

My CAF


Top
Forum only selling notice

GENERAL PUBLIC SERVICE NOTICE ON POSTING GUIDELINES

Note that the members of this board are encouraged to POLITELY point out posts that violate the marketplace posting guidelines, and to notify the moderators.

Thread starters: If you disagree that the guidelines have been violated and have reasons, then take it to the discussion thread and hash it out there. But please take the time to read the guidelines.

A probation list for bad transactions is maintained by the community. You are still responsible for your own transactions.

#8838863 - Yesterday at 12:57 PM Re: PROBATION DISCUSSIONS [Re: PovertyRow]
wombat Offline
TOTAL NEWBIE


Registered: 07/19/14
Posts: 7705
Loc: New Jersey
 Originally Posted By: PovertyRow
 Originally Posted By: Kevin76
I CGC forum states that they aren't responsible in any transactions that take place, but they'll put you on a list? Give me a break.


CGC doesn't put you on the list, board members do. CGC has made it very clear the PL/HOS list is up to us, not CGC, handle.



Exactly. It doesn't even prevent anyone from doing business on the boards. Just a warning to others.
_________________________
My kudos thread

Top
#8838889 - Yesterday at 01:13 PM Re: PROBATION DISCUSSIONS [Re: comix4fun]
Transplant Online   confused

WARNING!!! This member is passive aggressive. Please beware of sharp fingernails.

TOTAL NEWBIE


Registered: 08/16/07
Posts: 18956
Loc: Ellen James Society
 Originally Posted By: comix4fun
 Originally Posted By: Kevin76
I remember when this probation was in the works and being made, I thought it was stupid and 15 years later I still think it is, The buyer has a right to change his/her own mind. Ever walk into your local grocery store, drop something in your cart then when you get to the check out you put it back instead of buying? Same thing. The store doesn't "black list" you. If the buyer doesn't want to buy it and gets cold feet, or if the seller gets cold feet at the last second, neither should be put on a list for it to "warn other members" The whole system set up here is absurd. CGC forum states that they aren't responsible in any transactions that take place, but they'll put you on a list? Give me a break.




Kevin, buddy, I love you man....but you got your apples and oranges mixed up at the local grocery store.

These are little written contracts to buy and sell here. Offer, Acceptance, etc.

The "last second" you are talking about where the parties can change their mind comes before one party names a price to anyone who accepts and someone accepts. We've got that here too. The list comes up after they've committed to buy or sell and everyone's locked in and agreed to perform.

That falls under "a deal's a deal" because at that point it's sealed.

CGC's not putting anyone on the list, it's the members here.

We've seen some incredibly shady effers up in here and that list, if it serves no other purpose, doesn't let them hide in the shadows and repeat the actions over and over again. That's value.


_________________________


"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence."
Charles Bukowski

GACollectibles: It seems very....passive aggressive.
DrWatson: I have known him several years and I can say with some absurdness that there isn't anything passive about him.

Passive Aggressive spite posting like a B0$$, since 2007.

Top
Page 3168 of 3168 « First<31643165316631673168


Moderator:  cgcmod6, Architecht, cgcmod5, cgcmod7, cgcmod8, CCGmod0, Matt Nelson, cgcmod9, cgcmod10, cgcmod11, cgcmod12, plitch, ccgmod1, PaulS., ccgmod2, Bree 
Hop to:
Boards Information
Please read the
TERMS OF USE - BOARD GUIDELINES
for the rules of moderation on the boards.



The Money Marketplace
a few coins NO RESERVE at great collections ending late sunday sept 6, 2015
by michael
08/30/15 11:44 PM
FSH Not quite Slabs
by wheat'swheats
08/30/15 10:50 PM
New Ebay Listings Mint Sealed Bags
by spdrmnmvl
08/30/15 05:55 PM
GreatCollections - Today - 1909-O $5, 1995 $1, Platinum, Gupta Morgans, Pennies
by ianrussell
08/30/15 05:49 PM
Comics Marketplace
HULK 1 ~ CGC 1.0 ~ Blue Label
by Omaha-CGC-Comics
FS: DC Comics Presents 26 CGC 9.6 White Pages
by Chillax23
10:48 AM
$We Are Buying Star Wars 1 CGC 9.4 to 9.6 35 Cent Variant Covers$
by ComicConnect
10:43 AM
Another four 10 centers
by GermanFan
10:41 AM
Advertisements

Generated in 0.812 seconds in which 0.801 seconds were spent on a total of 15 queries. Zlib compression enabled.

IDW Publishing