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#9669189 - 11/27/16 09:45 AM Re: The Wonder Woman all the Time thread [Re: Spiderturtle]
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NOVEMBER 2016 UPDATE : Recent sales for ALL STAR COMICS #8


5.5 (Sold in auction for $61,000)
minus 10% commission $6,100)
Seller keeps $54,900


5.0 (Sold on the exchange for $55,000)
minus 10% commission $5,500
Seller keeps $49,500


5.5 (Sold in auction for $69,001)
minus 10% commission $6,900)
Seller keeps $62,100


4.0 Slightly Brittle (Sold at auction for $31,070)
minus 10% commission $3,107
Seller Keeps $27,963


1.8 Cr/ow (Sold on Auction for $27,485)
minus 10% commission $2,748
Seller keeps $24,736


1.5 C/ow (Sold on Auction $28,320
minus 10% commission $2,832
Seller keeps $25,488


2.0 Cr/Ow (Sold via our board for $32,450 ???)
Sold by Spiderturtle.....sale price needs to be confirmed .


Last sale (November 2016) :
1.5 Cr/ow (Sold on Auction $17,925)
minus 10% commission $1,792
Seller keeps $16,132




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#9669586 - 11/27/16 04:00 PM Re: The Wonder Woman all the Time thread [Re: The_investor]
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So is the take-home message that the market for AS8 is still on the rise, steadying out, or slowing down? Or just volatile?
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#9669797 - 11/27/16 06:02 PM Re: The Wonder Woman all the Time thread [Re: Zolnerowich]
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Good question.
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#9669902 - 11/27/16 06:53 PM Re: The Wonder Woman all the Time thread [Re: Knightsofold]
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That is the question we should all be asking ourselves.

I think it's a little early to formulate an answer but I'm thinking a softening in prices MIGHT be around the corner. There are many factors that come to mind:

1) Macro economy (U.S. dollar going up too much so it squeezes foreign buyers);

2) Micro economy (Book has gone up a great deal over the last 1-2 years based on the movie next year... investment-wise it's a BIG BET on whether or not the movie will do well or tank. Movie-wise, Wonder Woman has not proven herself yet as Superman and Batman have already done. Many people question the actress, negative rumors about the movie plot we all read on the net, etc... Once again this could be a good contrarian play (bet) IF AND ONLY IF everything works out well with the movie. Don't forget, the smart money that invested in this book over the years want to bank their 30-500% profit prior to the movie and take no chances because prices ALMOST ALWAYS go down after the movie is released.

3) Many copies have been showing up for sale (Ebay, Comiclink, Comicconnect, Heritage, etc...) At times multiple copies in the same month!

4) All Star Comics 8 is a very desirable book but not Rare by any means

5) We must look at other books in the same category with the same variables and desirability to see if they've been suffering or thriving price-wise.

Just be cautious if you spend money you can't afford losing. It's always easy to buy and not as easy to sell when you need the cash.
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#9669931 - 11/27/16 07:12 PM Re: The Wonder Woman all the Time thread [Re: The_investor]
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 Originally Posted By: The_investor
5) We must look at other books in the same category with the same variables and desirability to see if they've been suffering or thriving price-wise.


Please do so and report back.

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#9670095 - 11/27/16 08:30 PM Re: The Wonder Woman all the Time thread [Re: Sqeggs]
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 Originally Posted By: The_investor
5) We must look at other books in the same category with the same variables and desirability to see if they've been suffering or thriving price-wise.


Please do so and report back.




I believe the criteria should be a book that is :

1) From the Golden Age (during WWII)

2) A First Appearance of a major character (Super Hero and not a Villain)

3) "Preferably" the character does not make an appearance on the cover

4) Must have been selling regularly on auction sites over the last year and we must AVOID books that have a pent up demand due to a lack of copies hitting the auction sites and Ebay. History has shown us that pent up demand initially leads to inflated prices and then more copies flood the market and lower the prices. NEVER underestimate two bidders with unlimited money who want a copy at any cost regardless of the fundamentals of supply and demand (i.e. Fantastic Four 52 9.8 selling for $90,000 and a recent copy selling for $60,000, etc...). Sometimes some bidders want to bid their own books up to maximize their profits and ask their friends to do it for them or they do so themselves because they have multiple accounts? Especially if they own multiple copies of the same book.

5) Must have close to the same number of UNIVERSAL copies when adding CGC/CBCS and PGX copies on the consensus.

6) Careful when using GPA because at times I find them to be inaccurate and don't report every sale which can lead to misleading price points!!!

7) The Character must stand the test of time, popularity, historical importance, uniqueness (i.e., Wonder Woman stood for female rights, case studies were based on her character at the university level , etc...)

8) When looking at the stats on GPA, Gocollect, etc...books with similar grades selling for different prices have factors that have not been taken into consideration and people mistakenly assume prices have gone down or up (i.e., why is the price of two books in the same grade different? Might one copy have bad centering, tape on the cover or interior cover that become visible to the eye, bad eye appeal, very small amount of glue on the spine or cover, cover detached, centerfold detached, spin split, different degrees of foxing etc...)

9) Do you see people cos play this character at Comic Cons and Halloween?

10) Does this character transcend it's own title and sells books when appearing in other titles or other non-comic book material?

11) Compare the sale of this comic to a blue chip stock and draw your graphs (do the same for an All Star comics 8 and then compare stats for each book by overlapping them with a common denominator). This takes lots of work but it's worth the time and effort.The stock market reveals more than we think when it comes to collectibles!


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