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#9791187 - 02/05/17 02:53 PM Newbee needs help/advise on a coin
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Good afternoon all. This is my first time joining and posting, so I hope to have place this question in the right place.

I recently found a circulated Roosevelt dime with what appears to have the letters "ST" printed in front of the forehead, and die crack on the reverse. So I am wondering if anyone has seen this before, and if it is something I should have slabbed? All advise will be welcomed. Thank you.

I am hoping the attached pictures will help.


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#9791217 - 02/05/17 03:18 PM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: JoeVeteran]
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Welcome to the forums!

What you have there is known as a "clash." This is incredibly common on dimes, and not worth slabbing.

It happens when the hammer and anvil dies come together without a planchet (coin) in between. Some of the reverse design is transferred to the obverse, and vice versa. The "die crack" you see on the reverse is not actually a die crack, but is actually the outline of FDR's bust. If you line up the outline of the bust and the lettering, you'll see that the lettering in front of his face is probably some part of PLURIBUS UNUM.
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#9791228 - 02/05/17 03:30 PM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: physics-fan3.14]
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Thank you very much for your quick response. I do appreciate the info, especially being new to coin collecting.

I do have another one that I believe I have seen a few of, and folks referred to it as "die crack". Can you tell me what you think about the attached one?


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#9791245 - 02/05/17 03:49 PM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: physics-fan3.14]
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Still a neat 'die clash' as Roosevelt's profile sticks out like a sore thumb on the reverse.
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#9791267 - 02/05/17 04:09 PM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: WoodenJefferson]
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Thank you!! I did not see that at all until you mentioned it. I will definitely be holding on to this one.
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#9791328 - 02/05/17 04:55 PM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: JoeVeteran]
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Is it a die clash? It looks more like someone took two normal dimes, stacked them and hammered them, thus faking a "clashed die".
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#9791354 - 02/05/17 05:07 PM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: James_OldeTowne]
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 Originally Posted By: James_OldeTowne
Is it a die clash? It looks more like someone took two normal dimes, stacked them and hammered them, thus faking a "clashed die".


Good point James...but I was looking at Roosevelt's throat area and it appears to dive under the oak leaf. If hammered/squashed would the outline of the bust do that?
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#9791364 - 02/05/17 05:17 PM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: James_OldeTowne]
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Good point James, however if it were where someone put two other coins together and smashed it, then would not the rest of the missing letters show over the forehead, and not stop at it?

Just asking, I can't really say what happen to this dime since one, I am a beginner in this coin fishing thing, and secondly, because I found this circulated dime in my coin jar.

The good thing is that the more folks comment on this dime, the more I learn.
Thank you for your input, every bit helps, and every theory can be very interesting to a beginner like myself. .

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#9791882 - 02/06/17 12:25 AM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: JoeVeteran]
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Welcome to the boards. The only dumb questions is the one you don't ask. \:\)

Cool coin. Error coins (this qualifies as a minor error IMO) are interesting and sometimes give significant insight to the minting process.

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#9791991 - 02/06/17 05:38 AM Re: Newbee needs help/advise on a coin [Re: orifdoc]
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Thank you orifdoc,

The more I learn about it, the more I like it. It really makes coin fishing fun.

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