Trimmed or Torn ? Poll in Thread

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I was looking up AF15's and after viewing a recent "Please Grade My...." thread on the boards I began to look at books a new way and I want to say that is not in a good way.

Take a look at this AF15. As we know, many AF15's were trimmed to make the Marvel Chipping go away. Trimming is a form of restoration. The book I am about to show you sits in a blue label CGC book. I am not making any allegations that the seller tampered with the book in any way shape or form.

So is this AF15 a product of tearing away the trim job and trying to pass it off as extreme Marvel chipping?

However... as I said... this thread really got to me, especially this POST where the owner of that book mentions,

Also, if one edge is trimmed, and obviously so, what is to stop you from carefully tearing the edge to remove the trim. That would then be treated as an unrestored book wouldn't it? Seems drastic, but the difference in restored and unrestored price wise is huge. You could pass it off as marvel chipping.

I don't think it was trimmed and then torn. Looks worn somehow. I've seen a couple of books like that but can't recall how they got that way. It's most likely also not Marvel chipping.

This was tampering. The top corner was torn off while the paper was still supple. There are also two very straight edges, from Spidey's foot to his knee, and from the CCA box to the issue number.

If I had to guess, the original owner was a kid who did this to even out the Marvel chipping, but didn't have a straight edge or scissors handy... so I guess I vote crack

Who knows but the book is a 1.0, and when that much is missing from the cover it shouldn't matter how it happened.

Book is not a 1.0. It is a bit 'higher' and it was not noted as restored or qualified.

Book is not a 1.0. It is a bit 'higher' and it was not noted as restored or qualified.

To clarify, I'd consider it a 1.0. If CGC gave it any more than a 1.5, they were choosing the "crack" option.

Book is not a 1.0. It is a bit 'higher' and it was not noted as restored or qualified.

 

To clarify, I'd consider it a 1.0. If CGC gave it any more than a 1.5, they were choosing the "crack" option.

Crack it is

looks like extensive marvel chipping to me. I think I saw this last night on eBay while also looking for a AF#15

Right middle looks like chipping. Top looks torn. Either way, if it was original trimmed and was torn to "remove" the trimming, the book was getting destroyed. My guess it wasn't trimmed originally.

Like I said... that conversation really bothered me after I saw this.

Oh, this is the AF I posted. How odd. I hope everyone see's that I myself am not an advocate for defacing any comic book - it would have been nice to have included or mentioned that.

I'm not up on all the terminology - what does the third vote option 'crack please' mean?

As a space filler (and a joke) a lot of polls here have a reference to smoking crack as one of the options. Not sure how it originated.

Maybe someone who's been around longer has the backstory?

As a space filler (and a joke) a lot of polls here have a reference to smoking crack as one of the options. Not sure how it originated.

 

Maybe someone who's been around longer has the backstory?

 

Got it, thank you Foley

You're most welcome.

And for what it's worth, I know that your question about tearing a trimmed edge was a hypothetical curiosity, and that you weren't condoning actually doing it.

You're most welcome.

 

And for what it's worth, I know that your question about tearing a trimmed edge was a hypothetical curiosity, and that you weren't condoning actually doing it.

Oh thanks! I didn't mean to upset anybody - it was just as you say, a bit of curiosity

Book is not a 1.0. It is a bit 'higher' and it was not noted as restored or qualified.

It has been listed numerous times and so far hasn't sold (on a site that won't be named as a courtesy to the OP since he didn't specify where it is being offered).

The edge has always looked suspicious to me every time I look at it.

Very possible it has been strategically torn to "undo" trimming.

Book is not a 1.0. It is a bit 'higher' and it was not noted as restored or qualified.

 

It has been listed numerous times and so far hasn't sold (on a site that won't be named as a courtesy to the OP since he didn't specify where it is being offered).

The edge has always looked suspicious to me every time I look at it.

Very possible it has been strategically torn to "undo" trimming.

No, no you've got it wrong. The picture posted by Buzzetta is not my AF15! My scans have come off for some reason. My book is not CGC graded. This is why I posted today, as the thread makes it look like it's my book. This is really unfair!

Book is not a 1.0. It is a bit 'higher' and it was not noted as restored or qualified.

 

It has been listed numerous times and so far hasn't sold (on a site that won't be named as a courtesy to the OP since he didn't specify where it is being offered).

The edge has always looked suspicious to me every time I look at it.

Very possible it has been strategically torn to "undo" trimming.

 

No, no you've got it wrong. The picture posted by Buzzetta is not my AF15! My scans have come off for some reason. My book is not CGC graded. This is why I posted today, as the thread makes it look like it's my book. This is really unfair!

I didn't say it was your AF15.

The picture that Buzzetta posted is up on another website.

The book Buzzetta posted is a CGC copy.

Book is not a 1.0. It is a bit 'higher' and it was not noted as restored or qualified.

 

It has been listed numerous times and so far hasn't sold (on a site that won't be named as a courtesy to the OP since he didn't specify where it is being offered).

The edge has always looked suspicious to me every time I look at it.

Very possible it has been strategically torn to "undo" trimming.

 

No, no you've got it wrong. The picture posted by Buzzetta is not my AF15! My scans have come off for some reason. My book is not CGC graded. This is why I posted today, as the thread makes it look like it's my book. This is really unfair!

 

I didn't say it was your AF15.

The picture that Buzzetta posted is up on another website.

The book Buzzetta posted is a CGC copy.

Sorry! I've misread this. My mistake Jordysnordy.

I did not post the whereabouts of the listing nor the seller. I find the seller to be reputable and do not believe that they would engage in that behavior.

Thanks Jordy for not putting it in this thread as I wouldn't want a google search to link the seller and the questions raised here potentially harming the seller's reputation.