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#8101851 - 10/14/14 10:33 PM British sketch cover artist Gary Parkin - swipe or not?
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Most of his "originals" are blatant copies of Alex Ross, Frank Miller, Art Adams and other famous covers. I don't see any acknowledgement to the original artist. I asked him why he's calling them original and not homages (I was being nice) but I received no reply. Does anybody here have any info about him? Here's his ebay site:
http://Support-the-Collectors-Society.com/sch/underglow_art/m.html?item=221574720308&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Parkin:
[img]http://[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DTbs3VN.jpg?2[/IMG][/img]
Ross:
[img]http://[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CLdxIqA.jpg?2[/IMG][/img]

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#8101966 - 10/14/14 11:38 PM Re: British sketch cover artist Gary Parkin - swipe or not? [Re: Juno Beach]
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A "swipe" usually has some trace of original style to it. These are just copied images. Not that there isn't a market for that sort of thing, but they should be acknowledged as such, though I doubt anyone buying these is under the illusion they are original concepts.
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#8101974 - 10/14/14 11:44 PM Re: British sketch cover artist Gary Parkin - swipe or not? [Re: Juno Beach]
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 Originally Posted By: Juno Beach
Most of his "originals" are blatant copies of Alex Ross, Frank Miller, Art Adams and other famous covers. I don't see any acknowledgement to the original artist. I asked him why he's calling them original and not homages (I was being nice) but I received no reply. Does anybody here have any info about him? Here's his ebay site:
http://Support-the-Collectors-Society.com/sch/underglow_art/m.html?item=221574720308&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Parkin:

Ross:


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Yeah, those aren't homages. He's doing a 'direct lift' of famous artist's works.
He does use the word "reproduction" in some, not all, of his listings. But he neglects to mention any artist by name, giving credit where it's due. Typically using "after _______" on the piece.
Artist's reps should to be all the guy since he's obviously doing them commercially.

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#8102081 - 10/15/14 01:16 AM Re: British sketch cover artist Gary Parkin - swipe or not? [Re: Davenport]
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He seems to be on a big Bruce Timm phase right now.
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#8102167 - 10/15/14 04:07 AM Re: British sketch cover artist Gary Parkin - swipe or not? [Re: Juno Beach]
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if you are a light box "artist" Bruce Timm is an easy lift, so I'm not surprised he is stealing so vigorously from him.
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#8102325 - 10/15/14 09:01 AM Re: British sketch cover artist Gary Parkin - swipe or not? [Re: Miraclemet]
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I am not supporting him but I am sure most of us remember Dan Adkins. Adkins would project the works of others onto illustration board, interpret the lines in his own ink style, sometimes colour them with a coloured pencil and sell them, very successfully, as his own. We were always astounded at the low, low, deep discount prices, often five or ten bucks. I still own a Dan Adkins image of a spaceman on a cross. Boy, he could ink. It was a decade or more before I discovered that the image I bought for $10 was snatched right off the cover of an SF magazine (maybe Galaxy) created originally by (I believe) John Schoenherr.

He did these before things had gone into reprint a hundred times over. A comic from three years before was in the distant past. I loved the work of Dan Adkins. Many people just couldn't accept his swipes-- the people who sued him for instance.
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#9515154 - 08/17/16 11:21 PM Re: British sketch cover artist Gary Parkin - swipe or not? [Re: That Ron Dude]
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I was trying to learn more about this guy and learn his story. I've got my Mighty Avengers #1 with a Parkin Thor ink right here in front of me.

It's very obvioulsy a tracing of the film actor, but done extremely well and in a unique style of Parkin's, with little slashes and cross-hatching -type strokes. I knew exactly what it was when I saw it, liked how it looked, and bought it full well knowing how it was made, for what was probably $15 or less. Totally happy with the purchase.

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#9515393 - 08/18/16 04:09 AM Re: British sketch cover artist Gary Parkin - swipe or not? [Re: Oddjob22667]
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 Originally Posted By: Oddjob22667
I was trying to learn more about this guy and learn his story. I've got my Mighty Avengers #1 with a Parkin Thor ink right here in front of me.

It's very obvioulsy a tracing of the film actor, but done extremely well and in a unique style of Parkin's, with little slashes and cross-hatching -type strokes. I knew exactly what it was when I saw it, liked how it looked, and bought it full well knowing how it was made, for what was probably $15 or less. Totally happy with the purchase.



1. Parkin doesnt have a "unique style", he has a method. That method is light boxing.

2. I guess light boxing the image of the actor is slightly better than stealing another artists work, though one could argue that if the image he used to light box the Thor was a professional photo from an actual photographer, many of those photographers own the rights to the image they took. And if someone is grabbing screen caps from movies, well the studios own those rights. Either way he has a history of lightboxing other artists work and not attributing it (a'la "after Kirby" or "after Ross" and even then those are usually done when someone is trying to replicate a style vs just trying to make a cheap knock off of the image...

3. You say obviously a tracing. You dont know everyone, and to someone else they might think this is an original composition from the artist. The best thing to do is for an artist to be up front about his method. Plenty of artists use body model reference, but the legit ones create original body model references (I've seen plenty of pictures of artists doing the pose they're trying to sketch, taking a photo of it, and then using it as reference, which is cool, cause its all original).

4. You say you bought it "full well knowing how it was made"... how? Did the artist tell you?

5. I get that when somethings cheap ($15), then it seems like stealing, misrepresentation and so on seem like nit-picky things, but there are plenty of artists out there refining their craft, trying to break into the hobby and creating original content that better deserve even $1 from you rather than another tracing mis-representer...
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