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annah3376

 

Bought my Dark Knight 1. Is now whining because she thought it was the figure.

 

 

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

I'm sorry I did not know this was a comic I'm going to have to return this sorry

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

Can I ask, seriously, what did you think it was?

 

How could you possibly think it was NOT a comic book? It is listed under "Comic Books". There's a picture of a "comic book". There is a clear description of a "comic book."

 

What did you think it was?

 

- flying-donut

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

I thought it was the figure cause the box has the same exact picture as the front of the comic book and I saw it was ending and I didn't bother to read the discription and bought I'm sorry I thought it was the action figure

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

How could you have possibly gotten that it was the figure? How is that possible?

 

- flying-donut

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

The front of the box of the figure is the same exact picture of this comic

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

No it doesn''t. It has a different logo. You thought you were getting a GREAT DEAL so jumped on it. You made the mistake, and I'm going to get screwed. Super.

 

 

- flying-donut

 

You and your misleading comic book listings for comic books!

 

 

No excuse for the buyer as they should read the description of what they are paying for.

 

This is what they thought they were getting though.

Dark Knight Mezco Figure

 

This was the Dimaond version and seems to be trading at anywhere between $85 to $110 including shipping. $67 + shipping was not far off from the low end. Also I found a mix of comics and toys when I did a simple search for Dark Knight Figure One because this was the first figure in the series.

 

However, with that said, there is no excuse for the buyer not to read the description of what they are buying on eBay. That is on the buyer.

 

 

Has anyone fought this with eBay and it decided in the seller's favor? I am really asking, I've had this happen to me a few times and I just refund/return since I assume eBay will take the buyer's side.

 

If I feel it is a fight worth fighting - I fight to win.

 

And I do.

 

It has happened on several occasions when I knew I was being scammed.

 

I didn't list this here because at the time I thought there would outrage and drama. There was an incident a couple of years ago when I sold a GI Joe vehicle. The items was advertised and photographed as "vehicle only - no figure included". The description and photos supported the same. The individual made a claim saying he wanted the original figure that went along with it. I told him that the auction not only makes no mention of the figure but clearly indicates that it is not included. Anyone who looks at my listings also knows that my descriptions get to the point and are not walls of text. Anyway the guy then says that he should be entitled to keep the vehicle and receive a refund for his trouble. I disagreed and offered a refund provided I get the item back.

 

Then he gave me a lecture that he protects my rear end because he is active military and I should give it to him for free. That didn't sit well with me. I called up PayPal to personally argue the claim and they agreed with me. They told me that I was under no obligation to accept a return here (even though I offered one) and that they were closing the case.

This buyer was clearly being ridiculous by expecting to be allowed to keep the vehicle free of charge. He probably did not even want to pay shipping. So basically he wanted you to be out the vehicle and shipping, which is you paying him to take the vehicle off your hands. This is insane.

Anyone who has purchased any action figures, dolls, etc, knows (or SHOULD know) to read the description very carefully. Very often the figure or doll does not come with the clothing / outfit or whatever else is in the photo. In your case you were advertising the vehicle, NOT the action figure.

Some people think the world owes them something, simply because they exist. Perhaps your buyer was one such person.

"I'm a plumber. You can go to the bathroom etc, thanks to me. I demand a free AF15'

annah3376

 

Bought my Dark Knight 1. Is now whining because she thought it was the figure.

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

I'm sorry I did not know this was a comic I'm going to have to return this sorry

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

Can I ask, seriously, what did you think it was?

 

How could you possibly think it was NOT a comic book? It is listed under "Comic Books". There's a picture of a "comic book". There is a clear description of a "comic book."

 

What did you think it was?

 

- flying-donut

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

I thought it was the figure cause the box has the same exact picture as the front of the comic book and I saw it was ending and I didn't bother to read the discription and bought I'm sorry I thought it was the action figure

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

How could you have possibly gotten that it was the figure? How is that possible?

 

- flying-donut

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

The front of the box of the figure is the same exact picture of this comic

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

No it doesn''t. It has a different logo. You thought you were getting a GREAT DEAL so jumped on it. You made the mistake, and I'm going to get screwed. Super.

 

- flying-donut

You'll get a copy of GamePro back in the mail.

I'd fight that mess. To hell with that. Uh-uh.

-slym

Boardies be like...

Ugh, eBay needs to bring back blocking 0 feedback bidders...

Everybody's gotta start somewhere.

Just yesterday sold a BA Tec to a 0-fb buyer who just registered yesterday.

Ugh, eBay needs to bring back blocking 0 feedback bidders...

Everybody's gotta start somewhere.

 

Just yesterday sold a BA Tec to a 0-fb buyer who just registered yesterday.

 

I'm guessing that's why eBay did it. Maybe their policy could be smarter and differentiate between 0 fb 0 transactions and 0 fb 1 or more transactions. That would allow newbs to buy.

That would then leave people's ability to buy beyond their first transaction at the whim of a seller that might be too busy to/ lazy to/ doesn't care about leaving feedback for said buyer.

annah3376

 

Bought my Dark Knight 1. Is now whining because she thought it was the figure.

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

I'm sorry I did not know this was a comic I'm going to have to return this sorry

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

Can I ask, seriously, what did you think it was?

 

How could you possibly think it was NOT a comic book? It is listed under "Comic Books". There's a picture of a "comic book". There is a clear description of a "comic book."

 

What did you think it was?

 

- flying-donut

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

I thought it was the figure cause the box has the same exact picture as the front of the comic book and I saw it was ending and I didn't bother to read the discription and bought I'm sorry I thought it was the action figure

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

How could you have possibly gotten that it was the figure? How is that possible?

 

- flying-donut

 

Dear flying-donut,

 

The front of the box of the figure is the same exact picture of this comic

 

- annah3376

 

Dear annah3376,

 

No it doesn''t. It has a different logo. You thought you were getting a GREAT DEAL so jumped on it. You made the mistake, and I'm going to get screwed. Super.

 

- flying-donut

I have had the same problem with a buyer that mistaken a comic book and thought it was a poster. I had the word comic book all over the description

Buyer admitted that he did not read the whole description and nothing came out of it.

I am sure eBay will side with the seller on this, Just keep trying until someone from eBay agrees with you. It is time consuming but it will happen

ebay ID: ear1907

Thrill bought. Immediately, and I mean immediately canceled.

Another Deadbeat buyer

itconnectionnyc09

Make an offer, I accepted it, send an invoice twice, No response and No Payment

You would think a buyer with over 2,000 feedback would know better

That would then leave people's ability to buy beyond their first transaction at the whim of a seller that might be too busy to/ lazy to/ doesn't care about leaving feedback for said buyer.

You can limit the number of transactions from a single buyer.

That would then leave people's ability to buy beyond their first transaction at the whim of a seller that might be too busy to/ lazy to/ doesn't care about leaving feedback for said buyer.

 

You can limit the number of transactions from a single buyer.

No, I get the point in theory, but I'm just saying that if a newb buys & the seller doesn't bother to leave feedback, that would leave him at zero feedback but with more than zero transactions. Even after almost 15 years buying there, I still buy stuff that I never get any feedback on. And if that was my first transaction, I'd be at least partially screwed under that kind of system.

That would then leave people's ability to buy beyond their first transaction at the whim of a seller that might be too busy to/ lazy to/ doesn't care about leaving feedback for said buyer.

 

You can limit the number of transactions from a single buyer.

 

No, I get the point in theory, but I'm just saying that if a newb buys & the seller doesn't bother to leave feedback, that would leave him at zero feedback but with more than zero transactions. Even after almost 15 years buying there, I still buy stuff that I never get any feedback on. And if that was my first transaction, I'd be at least partially screwed under that kind of system.

Oh I see

At least they have non-paying bidder to work around the feedback system and it's basically mandatory to address unlike feedback. I've been on the wrong end of it though and it's to have someone open one on you in like 24 hrs.

nostalgiawon

Full disclosure: This was the Star Wars #1 CGC 9.8 that sold for a ridiculously low price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191833235330?euid=72a4114ea00e454e85e852e56f4b8e90&cp=1&exe=13926&ext=35632&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext

However, an auction is an auction, so I sent the buyer an invoice immediately after the listing ended. All of my listings state, in big bold letters, that California residents must pay 9% sales tax. Also, all of my listings have, or are supposed to have, that sales tax automatically added to CA addresses when it comes time for invoice.

I didn't check the invoice to make sure, because it's always been automatic, and I didn't notice that the buyer was from CA until I looked at the Paypal payment that the buyer sent.

Paid that night, not a problem...but then I discovered that CA sales tax wasn't included. So, I refunded the payment, made sure Sales Tax was on the invoice, and resent it...assuming the buyer would pay, and that would be that, especially considering they got such a smoking deal....then the correspondence started:

Hello Mr. XXXXXX. Thank you for your quick payment. However, as noted in the listing, we are required to collect California state Sales Tax, and that wasn't included. I don't know why; it should have been automatically included in the invoice.

 

In any event, I will need to refund your payment, and you will need to resend payment that includes the Sales Tax. Sorry for the inconvenience!

His response:

Hi, I only paid the invoice that was sent to me. Why the sudden change in invoice? Anyway around the sales tax?

Hi. There wasn't a sudden change in invoice; the invoice wasn't correct to begin with. The CA sales tax requirement is in the listing. As I explained, that wasn't added automatically, and I don't know why, but it should have been, and I will contact eBay to find out what the problem is/was. I know you only paid the invoice sent, but it wasn't a correct invoice. You have been sent a corrected invoice.

 

There is no way around it; we are required to collect Sales Tax. Honestly, you got such an incredible, incredible deal, I don't think that the Sales Tax paid will make much of a difference on that. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience.

Thanks for the break down.

 

Being this went through eBay, this deal wasn't so much of a deal being its now on record through gpa for what it sold for. However gpa does not account for taxes. Also, it's honestly not the bad signature that caused this to end low. I can give you our dealer resale number tomorrow. That should eliminate sales tax correct?

I understand your reasoning, but what's reported on GPA isn't really our concern. The fact is, the book sold for a small fraction of what similar copies have been selling for. You got an incredible deal, about half what books like these have sold for in the recent past (and nearly 2/3 less than the last Chaykin sig.) The signature isn't bad at all; it's perfectly fine. It just didn't scan well.

 

If you don't feel like it is a good deal for you, I would be more than happy to cancel the transaction. I'm not at all pleased with how this ended, but I know that's not your fault in any way. However, if you're balking at the Sales Tax, after getting free shipping (and with insurance, this will cost me $30+ to ship) and such a low bid price, then we can cancel the transaction, if you'd like. Frankly, at this price, I'm really not too interested in a lot of debate about it, and if you're not happy with this, again, I'm more than happy to cancel the transaction. It would help me out quite a bit.

 

As for your resale number, we're not set up to deal with that. You'll have to deal with the state on that on your own (and they have a way to deal with that; we do it every year.) We just charge Sales Tax, and whatever you need to claim at the end of the year is up to you.

(note: he never supplied a resale number. Not sure if he had one or not, but the state of CA has a mechanism to reclaim sales tax paid when you file your return...IF he had a state seller's permit.)

Then this message, sent at 8:35AM on 3/28:

I can see your perspective. Would you mind sending me a text .....XXX.XXX.XXXX.

 

Thanks,

Vaughn

Then this next message, sent the same day, at 11:58AM:

When you have a chance please text me. I have questions..

 

XXX.XXX.XXXX

 

-Vaughn

Hi...I don't do text messaging with eBay transactions, but you're free to e-mail me at the address on the Paypal payment. I can't give it here, as you know, but it's the one that is XXXXXX. Please feel to discuss what you'd like through there. Thanks!

Up to this point, I was still committed to the sale...so yes, he was trying to get out of paying the Sales Tax....which shouldn't have been a problem at all, if he had a seller's permit...you can just claim it when you file...so all he needed to do was pay the second invoice, and the book would have been on its way.

Then, correspondence continued through AOL:

Hi,

 

Thanks for the message in where to email you. I just wanted to reach out to you to see if you would be interested in an option. Wanted to see if we could both benefit by using PayPal invoice. With your ebay final value fees around 10%, would you be willing to send me a PayPal invoice for $861 for the amount I won this at? Then I will accept a cancellation through eBay so you don't get charged. There's been enough back and forth messages where it's convincing we may not agree to the terms. This way we both can save some $..

 

Very best,

Vaughn XXXXX

The guy just handed me the reason for cancelling the sale on a silver platter, by suggesting we defraud eBay AND the state of CA. And after I outright TOLD him I wasn't happy with the end price.

Because, you know...."we can both save some $."

So, I ignored that, and waited for him to either resend correct payment, or go away.

So he continues:

Hi,

 

I'm following up on this email request...

 

Best Regards,

 

Vaughn

Yes, I got all of your correspondences. So, if I understand you correctly, you want to not only NOT pay Sales Tax, which was listed in the description as being required, but now you're ok with me not paying eBay fees? And there's enough back and forth to convince you that we "may not agree to the terms", even though those terms were spelled out in big, bold letters in the listing...? Really?

 

I think it's best if we just cancel the transaction, period. I'm not comfortable...at all...with the things you're suggesting we do.

Then, he sends the following e-mail FIVE TIMES:

I've been trying to pay this online through ebay and I haven't been successful due to your invoice adding on an extra $861 in fees. Why the extra fees? Please revise and resend ASAP. I'll pay it today!

 

Best Regards,

 

Vaughn

And then this message back through eBay again:

I'm looking to pay this through the ebay invoice you had resent and there's an error on there. I"m on the phone right now with Hannah , ebay customer service dept/buying and general support, and the invoice you sent has a duplicate charge. She and I agree you have charged an additional $861 under extra charges. Please revise invoice and resend. I will pay this right away!

 

Item (1) $861.00

Shipping Free

Sales tax $77.49

Seller extra charges $861.00

Order total $1,799.49

So, I look at the invoice, and it shows the correct total just fine...no "seller extra charges"...so I call in to eBay to confirm, and it's fine on their end....so I write back one final time:

You have sent this e-mail five times. There are no extra charges on the invoice. I'm looking at it right now. It shows the correct total. I don't know what "Hannah" (probably not her real name) is looking at, but she is incorrect. The invoice shows the correct total, which is $938.49.

And then filed a cancellation...

And today, I get negative feedback.

What a peach. This guy was annoyed that he had to pay sales tax, and also that this sale would be reported on GPA, because it would cut into his flipping profits. He outright says so....then suggests that we ought to collude to defraud eBay and the state.

Not smart.

Admittedly...and I think I was pretty clear about this....I was hoping the buyer wouldn't pay, or something would happen, and the transaction would be cancelled. I make no bones about that. But, the way the buyer went about it, after I openly told him I would be happy to cancel the transaction, and then to suggest fraud...? I couldn't have scripted that, and I cancel with a clean conscience. Frankly, I'm still amazed this guy tried to get an even better deal than he was entitled to.

Beware.

By the by....is "nostalgiawon" a CGC board member? If so, I'd like to toss them on the Probation List for this.

Pretty sure ebay will remove that neg for many reasons

Another Deadbeat buyer

 

itconnectionnyc09

 

Make an offer, I accepted it, send an invoice twice, No response and No Payment

 

You would think a buyer with over 2,000 feedback would know better

Their child played their eBay account.

Pretty sure ebay will remove that neg for many reasons

I'm pretty sure they will NOT remove it, not without a multi-hour, knock-down, drag-out fight.

Frankly, I don't have the time for that.

dang

I thought since he wanted to deal outside ebay it would be a breeze....