The-Collector Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 This whole thread is a big yawner. Look at the feedback this guy gets and the very satisfied customers. Frankly this is all that matters. Who cares if the books are trimmed or has some colour touch. I can understand your personal preference to not buy them but to go off and say this is defiling a book is ludicrous. It's a comic for goodness sake not the Bible etc. You can keep it pristine, cut out panels for a scrapbook hang the centre page up on the wall even trim the edges. It's all good. It's your book. And if people are willing to pay big bucks knowing the perceived faults who are we really to judge. Even if those faults are done to improve appearance. There is no deception here as far as I can see. Too many folks on this forum like getting on way too high a horse for their own good. Just relax. Cheers, Howard Howard, these guys buy knowingly restored books, crack them out and then fraudulently list them as unrestored. And the wall of evidence is huge. Take if from a fellow Canuck, they ain't innocent. This! Their unscrupulous actions are costing others lots of money through deceit. That is unjustifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 And now they are using PGX to give them some measure of legitimacy of being unrestored because PGX can't tell a trimmed book from a hole in the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmoore54 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Smells like shill spirit! Edited March 5, 2015 by trmoore54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Who cares if the books are trimmed or has some colour touch. me +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickamabob Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Who cares if the books are trimmed or has some colour touch. me +1 +2 Cumulatively, due to their misuse, these practices have been very damaging to the hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.X Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Who cares if the books are trimmed or has some colour touch. I just logged on and right off the bat I find one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Who cares if the books are trimmed or has some colour touch. I just logged on and right off the bat I find one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted. I went looking for some context that changed the meaning of that statement in his post, and found none. -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoomMember Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 looks like another 'high end' book has landed courtesy of PGX - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avengers-4-Vol-1-PGX-9-4-Like-CGC-Incredible-High-Grade-1st-SA-Captain-America-/201297863312?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ede49a290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Arkham Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Dude...those staples. Wat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Speaking of trim job central: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Journey-Into-Mystery-116-VG-FN-Marvel-Comics-/321688068575?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae61a61df&nma=true&si=Uki3S27wSxnMXZUAbw0P3qTizy8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 and not a single mention of it being trimmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Nope Glad I'm a boardie or I would have bought it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unca Ben Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Another one. Silver surfer #4. That right edge sure looks funny. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Surfer-4-Vol-1-Super-High-Grade-Classic-Thor-vs-Surfer-Cover-/201434377018?hash=item2ee66cab3a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unca Ben Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 ...and a Silver Surfer #1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Surfer-1-Vol-1-Very-High-Grade-Origin-of-Silver-Surfer-1968-/252099146938?hash=item3ab247b4ba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Tried to place a bid on an "all_things_comics" eBay auction and got this: I had forgotten who this seller was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Tried to place a bid on an "all_things_comics" eBay auction and got this: I had forgotten who this seller was. Looks like the seller helped you out on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Pontoon Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Tried to place a bid on an "all_things_comics" eBay auction and got this: I had forgotten who this seller was. How did you wind up on the naughty list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Tried to place a bid on an "all_things_comics" eBay auction and got this: I had forgotten who this seller was. How did you wind up on the naughty list? No clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 You got trimmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I guess I'll ask... everyone is up in arms about this, and rightly so - some of the images of these books is distressing - but if the industry decided to deduct huge points on the grading scale when they detect a trim, what about other modifications? Is color touch open to this new scale? What about glue or tape? Or do many of you just feel so strongly about trimming because it takes away from what was originally there? I could understand that, but I still think it would be inconsistent. On the other side of this.. there are a good number of people out there collecting purples - I have to wonder how they feel about this sort of talk. That's fair. I think people feel so strongly because this is the perfect storm of 'some insufficiently_thoughtful_person out there who is actively trimming nice books RIGHT NOW', and 'literally the worst trim jobs anyone has ever seen at any time anywhere'. There is some precedent here though. After years of complaining and pressure, CGC ended up changing their stance on tape so that books were not given grade bumps for having the spines taped up. It would be ideal if the same thing happened with extreme trim jobs like these, closing the current grading company loophole (where no matter how much material is hacked off a book, it can still show up in a slab with a 9.4 in the upper left). It is almost worth experimenting, to see just how much of a book can be trimmed away and still receive a CGC 9.4 label. It is in my opinion a completely legitimate question. Anyone game to try? Try trimming off 1 inch all around, if you get a CGC 9.4 with "slight" restoration then try to trim off 2 inches all around, then 3 inches. At what point of complete comic loss is it considered extensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
