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#7274679 - 12/19/13 11:06 PM The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault)
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So the History Channel will be running a show on the escavation of Oak Island. The writer of the Vault from a few years ago based his comic off the story around Oak Island.

MYSTERY OF OAK ISLAND


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#7274747 - 12/19/13 11:20 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Fastballspecial]
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Oak Island has fascinated me ever since I was a child. Probably my favorite treasure/treasure myth story around. At some point in my life I have read just about every book and article on the Island available.
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#7274769 - 12/19/13 11:27 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: NinjaSealed]
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Cool ..I have always thought it was a very interesting mystery..
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#7274784 - 12/19/13 11:32 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Not*Sure*]
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Interesting - just skimmed some stuff concerning this. Seems interesting and will check it out.
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#7274806 - 12/19/13 11:39 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Buzzetta]
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You had never heard of Oak Island? It was discovered 1795. Some weird stuff.
Theories range from pirates to aliens..

Could be ANYTHING!! lol
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#7274813 - 12/19/13 11:43 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Not*Sure*]
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That article is unintentionally funny to me.

What I got out of it was "The legend says 7 will die before the incredible treasure is discovered. Six have already died COOL is one of these guys gonna die and THEN they find a treasure..

it's like "Tune in folks someone could DIE"
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#7274820 - 12/19/13 11:47 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Fastballspecial]
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\(thumbs u Sounds interesting. I will have to watch.
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#7274827 - 12/19/13 11:50 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Catwomancomics]
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There is an Ancient Aliens segment on Oak Island. They weren't saying it was aliens.......but \(shrug\) (It's aliens)
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#7274845 - 12/19/13 11:59 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: NinjaSealed]
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#7274849 - 12/20/13 12:00 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Not*Sure*]
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#7274853 - 12/20/13 12:01 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Fastballspecial]
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I had read/watched a lot about Oak Island and that is what got me to buy 'The Vault' and it ended up being a pretty good comic.
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#7274897 - 12/20/13 12:13 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Not*Sure*]
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#7274905 - 12/20/13 12:17 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Hado]
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The ancient aliens crew have one of the coolest jobs on the planet. I remember when half of them were just complete nut bags posting crazy videos on youtube and doing seminars with 3 people sitting in them. Now they are all pulling in 6 figures.
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#7274948 - 12/20/13 12:33 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Not*Sure*]
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#7275461 - 12/20/13 08:15 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: BlowUpTheMoon]
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#7275539 - 12/20/13 08:59 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Not*Sure*]
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I don't believe there is a treasure there. I believe it is a mine for minerals used in making cement. At the time it was dug, that would've been a valuable and desirable commodity.

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#7275649 - 12/20/13 10:00 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: dgarthwaite]
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#7275665 - 12/20/13 10:08 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Dr. Balls]
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The story of Oak Island has fascinated me since Nimoy took me "In Search Of" back in the 70s.

I have no idea if anything is down there but with modern technology, we should be able to find out right?
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#7275737 - 12/20/13 10:42 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Jeffro™]
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lol lol

Seriously though, I too love the story of Oak Island and will certainly watch this!

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#9144960 - 02/04/16 10:44 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Hibou]
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For a few weeks I have been wondering if there is any treasure to be found on Oak Island. What if the lights on the island, that were spotted by the youths back in 1795, meant that the treasure was being dug up instead of buried.

The latest episode has descendants of the McGinnis family (the 3 youths from 1795) show up for a visit. They mentioned that 3 boxes of treasure were found and split by the 3 youths back in 1795. They had an artifact to lend credence to their story. This then raises the following conundrum. Is the latest effort a continuation of 220 years of searching for treasure in vain, since treasure was found but not reported. hm
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#9145052 - 02/04/16 11:42 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: frozentundraguy]
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This then raises the following conundrum. Is the latest effort a continuation of 220 years of searching for treasure in vain, since treasure was found but not reported. hm


Which would be particularly tragic given the lives lost over the years.
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#9145070 - 02/04/16 11:50 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: frozentundraguy]
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 Originally Posted By: frozentundraguy
For a few weeks I have been wondering if there is any treasure to be found on Oak Island. What if the lights on the island, that were spotted by the youths back in 1795, meant that the treasure was being dug up instead of buried.

The latest episode has descendants of the McGinnis family (the 3 youths from 1795) show up for a visit. They mentioned that 3 boxes of treasure were found and split by the 3 youths back in 1795. They had an artifact to lend credence to their story. This then raises the following conundrum. Is the latest effort a continuation of 220 years of searching for treasure in vain, since treasure was found but not reported. hm


If that is so, then it has to be the most crude joke on all generations of treasure hunters on Oak Island since 1795. The 3 youths kept silence, then their descendants did the same and ...laughed throughout the years at the hunters trying to dug up in vain! They got balls, I'll tell you.

But I think there is more than one treasure buried in the island. That legend had fantastied me for years since a kid.
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#9145492 - 02/04/16 03:18 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Fan Boy]
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For a few weeks I have been wondering if there is any treasure to be found on Oak Island. What if the lights on the island, that were spotted by the youths back in 1795, meant that the treasure was being dug up instead of buried.

The latest episode has descendants of the McGinnis family (the 3 youths from 1795) show up for a visit. They mentioned that 3 boxes of treasure were found and split by the 3 youths back in 1795. They had an artifact to lend credence to their story. This then raises the following conundrum. Is the latest effort a continuation of 220 years of searching for treasure in vain, since treasure was found but not reported. hm


If that is so, then it has to be the most crude joke on all generations of treasure hunters on Oak Island since 1795. The 3 youths kept silence, then their descendants did the same and ...laughed throughout the years at the hunters trying to dug up in vain! They got balls, I'll tell you.

But I think there is more than one treasure buried in the island. That legend had fantastied me for years since a kid.


It would be a cruel joke in this day & age but think of the mindset from 1795. These kids & their families wouldn't dare tell of the treasure they found for fear that it would be taken from them, not to mention their lives would be taken in the process (the dead tell no tales). It was all about survival. The kids (& their families) had to muster up this tale in case the people whom buried/left the "treasure" were still around &/or someone saw the kids rummaging around on the island...They tell the story like- "welp, someone must have already gotten to it cause we found nothing; maybe it's still there and we just didn't look good enough?"... Also, the definition of treasure to them very well may carry no resemblance of what we today think of as treasure (their "treasure" could be a banana peel they use as toilet paper" as I'm sure the soft texture was a welcome luxury in comparison to the roughness of leaves &/or the indignity of their hands lol). \:\)
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#9145564 - 02/04/16 04:11 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Pro2Newb]
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Maybe it was a blue flame the very same mentioned in the Dracula novel by Stoker, the only difference was Dracula marked it by a rock so that he could go back. Dracula was no dozer (unless it was daytime) even then. As for the show I gave up when they found a Roman sword? Then again John Wayne could have brought it from the set of The Greatest story ever told, yes he was an investor too.
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#9146298 - 02/04/16 10:10 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: tv horror]
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I visited Oak Island last year, and got to meet a few of the guys from the show - Charles Barkhouse, Jack Begley, Dan Blankenship.

The show can be a bit much at times, but isn't that the nature of reality television?

As for the Roman sword, the show debunked it pretty quick as a Victorian replica.

Whether there's treasure or not, Oak Island is a genuine mystery. If it takes a cheesy tv show to help bankroll the project to solve it, I'm ok with that.


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#9146359 - 02/04/16 10:46 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Brock]
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Been interested in the story since I first read about it as a youngster. I suspect that any treasure is long gone, but it certainly is a good tale about the treasure hunter mindset.

The current teevee show is ridiculously slow paced, they're trying to make a LOT of cabbage soup out of a single cabbage leaf every episode. It would be a lot more entertaining if they edited every hour long show to a half hour.
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#9146402 - 02/04/16 11:18 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: catrick339]
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#9146476 - 02/05/16 12:22 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: catrick339]
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Been interested in the story since I first read about it as a youngster. I suspect that any treasure is long gone, but it certainly is a good tale about the treasure hunter mindset.

The current teevee show is ridiculously slow paced, they're trying to make a LOT of cabbage soup out of a single cabbage leaf every episode. It would be a lot more entertaining if they edited every hour long show to a half hour.


Treasure is probably long gone but they have had a slew of experts airing their favorite theory of who else might have buried treasure on the island. The possibilities for treasure include the Knights Templar, Vikings, Pirates, Columbus, and the Aztecs. Given the tunnels dug from the oceans edge to points underground, that were used to flood the holes dug by treasure seekers, I find it hard to imagine that pirates had that kind of expertise and time to spend booby-trapping the treasure. I thought it was at least more likely that the Aztecs could have dug these tunnels, and had the expertise to do so. On a related note the Aztec treasure of Montezuma,dating from 1520 has never been found, so there is at least a possibility of that treasure being hidden some where.

Montezuma's missing treasure

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The only thing that is certain about Montezuma’s treasure is that it has not been found till today. Numerous theories have been put forward to suggest the location of its final resting place. For instance, the most popular theory is that the precious objects remain where they were dropped, i.e. at the bottom of Lake Texcoco. Numerous treasure hunters have searched the lake, however, but to no avail. It seems that one former president of Mexico even had the lake dredged, but as one may guess, nothing was found. Another theory claims that the treasure was retrieved by the Spaniards when they returned to Tenochtitlan, but the ship that was carrying the treasure back to Spain was sunk in a storm. Perhaps one of the most intriguing theories is that the treasure travelled north, and eventually ended up in Utah. Perhaps Montezuma’s Treasure will remain lost for many more years to come, safely hidden away from the greed of mankind.
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#9146478 - 02/05/16 12:25 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: frozentundraguy]
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There is no way the treasure is gone. No one has ever reached the bottom of the Oak Island pit. Not even close.
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#9147186 - 02/05/16 01:23 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: kav]
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I live about an hour away from Oak Island and know some people who have worked on the show. I suspect that the only thing buried there is missing film production equipment.
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#9147481 - 02/05/16 03:59 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: Fastballspecial]
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I learned about Oak Island as a child was interested enough to read one book about it as an adult, but now I'm skeptical.

There's some interesting information in this podcast/transcript:
https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4129


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#9147866 - 02/05/16 08:16 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: jimbo_707]
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The treasure is John Carradine waiting to say BOO! Just like he did in the Night gallery episode "Big surprise".
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#9148356 - Yesterday at 07:31 AM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: tv horror]
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I never heard of this and honestly thought you guys were talking about Pokemon. I for some reason remember an Oak Island from the TV show or video game
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#9149538 - Yesterday at 08:29 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: kav]
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There is no way the treasure is gone. No one has ever reached the bottom of the Oak Island pit. Not even close.


Did you watch this season's last episode? Rick and Marty had one of the worlds foremost scuba divers go down and investigate the "Money Pit". After a few tense moments as his air line became stuck on the pipe lodged near the bottom, the diver was able to reach the bottom. He then felt his way around the circumference of the bottom of the pit searching for a chest and the two pillars reported to be stuck on the bottom. He reported that the bottom all felt natural, but there was water movement, suggesting that one of the tunnels to the sea was connected to the bottom of the "Money Pit".

Of course this is still not conclusive proof due to poor visibility. Rick mentioned he would still like to drain all of the water out of "Money Pit", and find out once and for all what if anything is down there.
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#9149603 - Yesterday at 09:06 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: frozentundraguy]
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 Originally Posted By: frozentundraguy
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There is no way the treasure is gone. No one has ever reached the bottom of the Oak Island pit. Not even close.


Did you watch this season's last episode? Rick and Marty had one of the worlds foremost scuba divers go down and investigate the "Money Pit". After a few tense moments as his air line became stuck on the pipe lodged near the bottom, the diver was able to reach the bottom. He then felt his way around the circumference of the bottom of the pit searching for a chest and the two pillars reported to be stuck on the bottom. He reported that the bottom all felt natural, but there was water movement, suggesting that one of the tunnels to the sea was connected to the bottom of the "Money Pit".

Of course this is still not conclusive proof due to poor visibility. Rick mentioned he would still like to drain all of the water out of "Money Pit", and find out once and for all what if anything is down there.

think you need to rewatch, that was 10x they went to the bottom of, they're not quite sure where the money pit is. they think they have a really good idea where it is though. iirc they never said one of the tunnels from 10x leads to the money pit, just that is the overall thought process when they were digging 10x but are unsure if that's true
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 Originally Posted By: kav
There is no way the treasure is gone. No one has ever reached the bottom of the Oak Island pit. Not even close.


Did you watch this season's last episode? Rick and Marty had one of the worlds foremost scuba divers go down and investigate the "Money Pit". After a few tense moments as his air line became stuck on the pipe lodged near the bottom, the diver was able to reach the bottom. He then felt his way around the circumference of the bottom of the pit searching for a chest and the two pillars reported to be stuck on the bottom. He reported that the bottom all felt natural, but there was water movement, suggesting that one of the tunnels to the sea was connected to the bottom of the "Money Pit".

Of course this is still not conclusive proof due to poor visibility. Rick mentioned he would still like to drain all of the water out of "Money Pit", and find out once and for all what if anything is down there.

think you need to rewatch, that was 10x they went to the bottom of, they're not quite sure where the money pit is. they think they have a really good idea where it is though. iirc they never said one of the tunnels from 10x leads to the money pit, just that is the overall thought process when they were digging 10x but are unsure if that's true


my bad.
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#9149962 - Yesterday at 11:32 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: frozentundraguy]
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Why don't they just send a robot drone down with claws and a camera, then again the show would end and the sales revenue would dry up as easily as their well.
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#9150931 - Today at 03:26 PM Re: The Mystery of Oak Island Jan5th History Channel (Premise for the Vault) [Re: tv horror]
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I think by now if there was something there it would have been found.

Think about some guys what 200 years ago were able to bury a chest that 200 years later they still cant get too?

I love the show, but they are wasting their money.
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