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#6383 - 08/22/05 01:19 PM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: Architecht]
4ucoin Offline
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I recently registered a 1832 NGC MS 66 BN coin for the registry set. The score was 1. The coin value is about $ 4,500. There are only two coins (including PCGS and NGC) of all varieties that are graded at that level with none higher. The NGC number is 1635181-013. Please help. I believe the points should be at least 3,500.

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#6384 - 08/28/05 07:17 PM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: Architecht]
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Registered: 04/23/04
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A brief discussion of point values on BARBER PROOF HALVES.
1. DATE SET-BARBER PROOF HALVES
2. SLOTKIN FAMILY TRUST BARBER PROOF HALVES
3. http://www.collectors-society.com/registry/Coins/set_detail.asp?PeopleSetID=4028
4. 1913 115654-001 NGC PF 66 CA 4333
1914 2091578-005 NGC PF 67 4141
1915 2133518-046 NGC PF 67 4141
5.I don't think there is any dispute the the 1914 and 1915 are more expensive to purchase, rarer because they are the two lowest mintages, and harder to obtain as many had been damaged, improperly cleaned or discarded.
6. So, we have much lower populations in the 1914-15 than the 1913, a higher grade in both years, more expensive in the market and yet lower point values in Pr 67 than in Pr 66 Cameo for the 1913. Scores need to be adjusted. Leave the 1913 PR 66 Cameo where it is and raise the PR 67's in the 1914 and 1915.

MARK SLOTKIN
SLOTKIN FAMILY TRUST

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#6385 - 08/29/05 09:52 AM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: SLUGGO]
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dwssws, your coin has been scored.

4ucoin, your coin has been scored.

ABBEY, the adjustments that you requested for the 1914 and 1915 have been made, although this entire set needs some scoring refinement which is forthcoming. (Thanks for you patience on this, Mark.)

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#6386 - 09/08/05 07:35 PM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: Scott_Schechter]
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In the case of your 2005-P&D bison nickels, you have the score higher for the SMS coins (in high grade) than you do for the regular business strikes (brilliant pieces). This should be reversed. The brilliant pieces are far more difficult to come by in grades of 66 and higher than the SMS coins.

The difficulty is repeated for the Ocean in View coins, but you have the scores the same for each of these.

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#6387 - 09/13/05 06:40 PM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: Architecht]
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Registered: 10/06/02
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I added a 1956 MS67 Jefferson Nickel to the 1938 to date Jefferson series. This coin has an NGC pop of only 8 coins but gets only 9 points while most all other MS67's are ranging 200 - 300 ++++. Please check this one out.
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Owner: Nickelhead
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#6388 - 10/09/05 09:59 AM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: Architecht]
4ucoin Offline
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Registered: 01/26/05
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Recently added a Large Cent to a type collection. NGC 1619252-004 graded MS 67RB. Received 1 point. Please review. It is the highest graded coin of any variety by either PCGS or NGC. There are none tied or higher. Value is about $ 7,500.

Thanks for your help.

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#6389 - 10/20/05 08:27 PM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: DWLange]
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Registered: 11/05/04
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SUBJECT: 1907-1933 St Gaudens $20.00 gold coins. The 1909-D has 2 varieties, a small "D" and a large or wide "D", this is also found in the 1910 and 1911, Denver mint strikes. The 1913 has a variety from the San Francisco mint, the "S" leans to the right. These were made by a specific die stuck as many as 5 times by the mint. So, how can this be an error! Yet the only answer that NGC will give as to why these are not listed is "There are not a sufficient quantity in circulation and/or collector interest is not high enough to warrant a listing". Since when does a coin VARIETY not rate a listing. Where would the Morgan Silver Dollars be if Van Allen and Mallis had not taken it on themselves to do some fantastic, expensive and extensive research. I notice that NGC lists VAM collectors. Also, NGC does grade the top 100 vams. So you do recognize VAM's. Come on guys, you do list a 1911-D/D which is an error, but not the 1925 with double eagle feathers on the reverse. You also list the 1909/8 variety. Now, I for one would like to see these varieties added to the NGC listings and given their rightful place in line with the others. Dale

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#6390 - 10/27/05 02:11 PM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: shotofgold]
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Registered: 01/28/02
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Arch: Yesterday, I added a MS65, 1916-S, Saint, NGC(1869803-009) to my 20th Century Gold Registry Set. However, my overall total score for all sets did not change by the score of the new coin (only the increment), despite leaving the MS64, 1910-S Saint that I replaced in the type set in my 1910 Mint Set. Can this be? I would think that both should be fully counted?
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#6391 - 10/27/05 03:59 PM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: Oldtrader3]
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You mean your total registry points? They will count the highest score for each registered coin (for example between a typical date or type score, the date score would usually be higher and that's what would be used).

If a coin is used in multiple sets, it will still only count once. AND it will only use the highest available score from sets that the coin is used for. So I think what you're running into is that the MS64 is only used in the type set now, so you lost the date set points for the 64, gained the date set points for the 65 (the difference) plus probably some type set points for the 64.
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#6392 - 10/28/05 11:22 AM Re: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread [Re: Architecht]
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Registered: 01/26/05
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Please see my post dated October 9. Any idea when this will be resolved ?

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