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#5905067 - 08/06/12 02:15 PM Design points on a Walker coin
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Of the three important obv. design points (head, thumb & skirtline detail) that are struck on a Walker and are also used to partially determine grade, which do you find the most important and in what order?

Naturally we'd like them all to be bold but, if you had to choose, what would you say?? I'll start this by saying-

1.Thumb

2.Skirtlines

and then finally

3.Head.
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#5905216 - 08/06/12 03:16 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: Walkerfan]
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All of these will vary depending on the master hub used to make working dies.
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#5905746 - 08/06/12 06:20 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: RWB]
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Hi, you probably meant to have written skirtlines and hem for number two.

But in the case of this particular coin, and as far as I'm concerned, the head is by far and away the most important focus, as it is with most coins, but even all the more so with Walkers, because the head is so tiny, and because it is so often poorly struck and/or worn or showing hits. Who cares about the thumb, not me at all, except as a quick general indicator of the quality of the strike. I'm also not bothered by ordinary noise on the skirt. The head is absolutely the key for me.

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#5905757 - 08/06/12 06:22 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: delta]
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As a follow-up to my previous post in this thread, I'd say that after the head, the next thing I look at critically is the sun.
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#5905770 - 08/06/12 06:25 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: delta]
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TOTAL NEWBIE, makes no sense and seems very paradoxical and counter-intuitive.

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 Originally Posted By: delta
As a follow-up to my previous post in this thread, I'd say that after the head, the next thing I look at critically is the sun.


You must mean that you look at it for 'chatter', as I have never seen a poorly struck sun.
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#5905774 - 08/06/12 06:27 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: Walkerfan]
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 Originally Posted By: Walkerfan
Of the three important obv. design points (head, thumb & skirtline detail) that are struck on a Walker and are also used to partially determine grade, which do you find the most important and in what order?

Naturally we'd like them all to be bold but, if you had to choose, what would you say?? I'll start this by saying-

1.Thumb

2.Skirtlines

and then finally

3.Head.

None of the above. I look at the eagle's lower underside breast feathers first, then the forefinger second.
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#5905794 - 08/06/12 06:33 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: Walkerfan]
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 Originally Posted By: Walkerfan
 Originally Posted By: delta
As a follow-up to my previous post in this thread, I'd say that after the head, the next thing I look at critically is the sun.
You must mean that you look at it for 'chatter', as I have never seen a poorly struck sun.


Yes, thanks, that's exactly what I should have said. I find a blemished sun a bothersome distraction, but of course the condition and quality of the strike of the head of Miss Liberty is still by far and away the most crucial. And incidentally, as you may very well have already assumed, the same criteria apply equally to American silver eagles.

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#5906279 - 08/06/12 09:35 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: Walkerfan]
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#5906468 - 08/06/12 10:40 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: WoodenJefferson]
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I love a good strong thumb.
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#5906501 - 08/06/12 10:47 PM Re: Design points on a Walker coin [Re: WoodenJefferson]
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This is by far the hardest coin for me to grade. Unless the strike is strong the left hand blending into the body makes the weak struck coins look AU to me. Accordingly, I'd say skirtlines. I've always thought the right hand is better struck than the head though for purposes of your inquiry.
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