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Edited by jimbucks (08/07/12 07:46 PM)
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#5905592 - 08/06/12 05:24 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: jimbucks]
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So....Senden is not sendin' ?

Fake money orders are a big money maker for fraudsters; maybe patience is in order?
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#5905601 - 08/06/12 05:27 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: RWB]
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USPS Money Orders can be quickly verified online or via the phone.

I don't know about Western Union. Maybe you check on their verification methods and let the seller know of them?

I agree, 10 days sucks without prior notice that the seller would be holding it that long.
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#5905609 - 08/06/12 05:31 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: FishyOne]
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Could be he has been burned a few times.A little mercy:)
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#5905617 - 08/06/12 05:33 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: FishyOne]
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Of course, you had pre-approval for the Western Union money order, and the hold contingency, before you sent it and made the deal, right?

I am sure you asked all those pertinent questions ahead of time to the dealer, as you are that type of person, right? The type to know that Western Union money orders are some of the most frauded types of payments and that coin dealers may be leary of them.

You've been around the block a bit, so I am sure you did due diligence on payment methods the dealer prefers, that map to what you wanted to use, and the pros/cons of each, right?

I mean, I am not as experienced as you and those would be the first things I would go through....and I wouldn't think 10 days is as big a deal unless I were worried about the dealer skipping town or I was trying for a quick flip.
Do either of those apply?
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#5905644 - 08/06/12 05:41 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: Bochiman]
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 Originally Posted By: Bochiman
Of course, you had pre-approval for the Western Union money order, and the hold contingency, before you sent it and made the deal, right?

I am sure you asked all those pertinent questions ahead of time to the dealer, as you are that type of person, right? The type to know that Western Union money orders are some of the most frauded types of payments and that coin dealers may be leary of them.

You've been around the block a bit, so I am sure you did due diligence on payment methods the dealer prefers, that map to what you wanted to use, and the pros/cons of each, right?

I mean, I am not as experienced as you and those would be the first things I would go through....and I wouldn't think 10 days is as big a deal unless I were worried about the dealer skipping town or I was trying for a quick flip.
Do either of those apply?


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#5905659 - 08/06/12 05:47 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: jimbucks]
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 Originally Posted By: jimbucks
Bought a coin from a major dealer. Says he will not ship coin because he insists on holding my Western Union money order for 10 days.

WTF???

I say, I won't buy from him again. This is ridiculous.

The dealer is Mark Senden.

Perhaps I should just tell him to F-off and return my money.

What do you think?





Maybe you need to read the terms on the dealers web page before you slander his name on a public message board.
http://www.collectorscorner.com/dealer/default.aspx?dealerId=115&pt=1






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#5905674 - 08/06/12 05:53 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: Mark T]
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Slander? The truth is not slander.

The truth is the truth.

Perhaps you should read the constitution. And if give me the right to call you a person_too_unaware_of_social_graces.






Edited by jimbucks (08/06/12 05:55 PM)
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#5905689 - 08/06/12 05:59 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: Bochiman]
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Strangely, Western Union Money Orders, which can be purchased at most supermarkets and many department stores, are tough to cash for real money. For example, K-Mart sells Western Union Money Orders to buyers, but if somebody sends you one, and you bring it into the store with several good picture IDs, plus your passport and birth certificate, K-Mart will NOT cash it for you. Same thing with all the supermarkets around here, they sell but will never buy. Therefore, a recipient of a WUMO probably has to bring it over to a bank, and banks still usually won't cash them for money, unless they can do so by putting a hold on your account, but will hold them for clearing, just as if they were personal checks, and unfortunately even longer than personal checks.

Maybe just out of curiosity, but preferably for the sake of our discussion here, please get on the phone, and call around in your own local geographic area, and see if you can find a place where they will give you cash for a Western Union Money Order. And if you find a place, ask if they will give you the full amount, or deduct a fee and percentage. Then, please report back to us. After your report, let's continue the discussion. Thanks!

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#5905723 - 08/06/12 06:10 PM Re: This just pisses me off [Re: delta]
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It appears his terms are clear. States in plain English that Checks and Money Orders require 10 days to clear. What are you mad about?

10 days is nothing if he has the coin you are looking for.

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