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#5868132 - 07/22/12 05:59 PM Anacs Grading - Crossover
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Anybody have experience crossing over Anacs coins to NGC? I just bought a couple of seated liberty dimes that look decent. Obviously grading is on a coin by coin basis....just looking for general comments on Anacs grading.

Mike

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#5868144 - 07/22/12 06:10 PM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: mikew148]
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Just a heads up - NGC now requires that the coins be removed prior to grading, so you want to make sure that the coins will likely cross before sending them. Alternatively, I would submit crossover coins to PCGS.

Edited by coinman_23885 (07/22/12 06:10 PM)
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#5869265 - 07/23/12 07:50 AM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: mikew148]
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 Originally Posted By: mikew148
Anybody have experience crossing over Anacs coins to NGC? I just bought a couple of seated liberty dimes that look decent. Obviously grading is on a coin by coin basis....just looking for general comments on Anacs grading.

My experience is not personal in this arena, but as a company, I can tell you that the success rate for coins in newer ANACS slabs is abysmal for us.
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#5871221 - 07/23/12 11:11 PM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: James_EarlyUS]
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I wish NGC would allow you to keep the coin in its holder when crossing over to avoid damage during shipping, etc.
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#5871323 - 07/24/12 12:06 AM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: mkman123]
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I sent 5 lincolns in ANACS holders and all but one was down graded,and one of these i sent to CAC and it got a gold bean.
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#5871358 - 07/24/12 12:22 AM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: wheat'swheats]
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The two dimes that I bought are in the second generation/blue holders. Both are toned....one is "crusty" and the other has some nice shades of green and blue. I'll post some pics when they arrive....either here or in "Buddy....spare a grade".

Thanks for the input.

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#5871420 - 07/24/12 01:03 AM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: mkman123]
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 Originally Posted By: mkman123
I wish NGC would allow you to keep the coin in its holder... to avoid damage during shipping, etc.


You can, but you must sign a waiver allowing NGC to crack the coin out before it ever passes before the graders. That is what I meant by my crossover comment. While I have (relative) confidence in my ability to grade accurately and identify problem coins, I wouldn't crack one and submit it raw (or allow NGC to do the same). I really wish they would change this policy. It's the only reason why my Collector's Club membership is with PCGS and not NGC. I actually prefer NGC because of its superior customer service.
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#5871477 - 07/24/12 01:43 AM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: coinman_23885]
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I have more respect for ANACS in the smaller white holder or even with the picture certs if the coin matches certificate.

I lost much of my respect for both ICG and ANACS when management started flopping, changing direction, location, employees...

As you said it depends on coin in slab, value for surrounding grades, possible downside, and how the 'target TPG' grades that series.

cracked this out


and turned it into this

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#5871596 - 07/24/12 04:57 AM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: e1cnr]
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e1cnr, congrats!!

Coinman, if I was going to crossover, I wouldn't even try to crack a coin out and submit it raw.........too much risk! I know some love the risk, but not me \:D

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#5872530 - 07/24/12 03:47 PM Re: Anacs Grading - Crossover [Re: mkman123]
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Lot #2172. 1882 Breen-3421. Liberty Seated Dime. MS-64 (PCGS).
(Auction Information: July 2004 Baltimore Auction - 8/7/2004) I did some research on the 1882 seated dime. It's labeled Breen3421. Stacks and Bowers shows this coin was in a PCGS holder MS64. Now it's in a ANACS holder MS62.
Is this a case of a bust out gone bad? Possibly busted out ...cleaned ...sent back to PCGS and then received a details grade? Then sent to ANACS to get a MS grade?
Either I'm missing something or something strange happened here..........thoughts?

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