#5867512 - 07/22/1201:09 PMRe: Next Breakout Walking Dead Comic
[Re: NewEnglandGothic]
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Originally Posted By: NewEnglandGothic
I hoping all this is sarcasm.
Me too, I think Branget is just playin, but there are a number of people who are predicting the downfall of the tights b/c of cultural changes (UFC is more popular than boxing), we live in a culture of extreme sports, extreme violence, etc. As scary as it is there may be a day when non-super hero books dominate the market. We are seeing signs of it now with the hot Image books like Fatale, Walking Dead, Thief of Thieves, etc. As always, only time will tell. I doubt that Walking Dead No. 1 will ever be worth more than TMNT No. 1, but there are a lot of people whose opinions I respect that have told me with a straight face that they see that day coming in the next decade if the WD is marketed to a wider audience, gets a movie deal and other licensing deals. I don't think its going to happen, but I certainly prefer the WD to TMNT and clearly the WD is a much better written comic than TMNT.
#5867514 - 07/22/1201:09 PMRe: Next Breakout Walking Dead Comic
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Originally Posted By: Nico Esq
There's a surprising number of people who don't even know that they contain the first Walking Dead preview.
While this is probably true for people that bought the comics then stored them away. The people who have them on eBay though are VERY aware that they are the WD preview...
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#5867520 - 07/22/1201:13 PMRe: Next Breakout Walking Dead Comic
[Re: NewEnglandGothic]
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Originally Posted By: NewEnglandGothic
I agree on this with you, George on the basis of my experience with the Locke & Key preview books. Other than Angel: After The Fall #3, none of the previews in my encounters were treated all that well. Most weren't even bagged and boarded. I mean who is gonna treat a Doctor Who Classics #2 like a premium book anyway.
What I'm wondering is... where there more preview books before those. I spent a lot ours in New England comic shops going through back-issues working on my title. Has anyone did the same for TWD?
I thought it was an unwritten rule with Image previews that the run them in two books? That's what they've done with Thief of Thieves, Fatale, Danger Club, Harvetst, Revival, etc.
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Originally Posted By: Nico Esq
Originally Posted By: NewEnglandGothic
I agree on this with you, George on the basis of my experience with the Locke & Key preview books. Other than Angel: After The Fall #3, none of the previews in my encounters were treated all that well. Most weren't even bagged and boarded. I mean who is gonna treat a Doctor Who Classics #2 like a premium book anyway.
What I'm wondering is... where there more preview books before those. I spent a lot ours in New England comic shops going through back-issues working on my title. Has anyone did the same for TWD?
I thought it was an unwritten rule with Image previews that the run them in two books? That's what they've done with Thief of Thieves, Fatale, Danger Club, Harvetst, Revival, etc.
But, this was back in 2003. Even Invincible had more than two previews (I think- I remember another one after Masters of the Universe and Savage Dragon... But I could be thinking of Noble Causes too.).
#5867539 - 07/22/1201:24 PMRe: Next Breakout Walking Dead Comic
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Originally Posted By: NewEnglandGothic
Originally Posted By: roastedbagel
Originally Posted By: NewEnglandGothic
I hoping all of this is sarcasm.
Last paragraph was, first two were mindless, inexperienced speculation by yours truly.
There is no such thing as experienced speculation, IMHO.
In 2008, I swore up and down that Snaked was gonna be the next BIG book. Even, requested a Registry set to Gemma.
Even that didn't happen.
It is a shame that speculation has become a dirty word b/c we all have such negative feelings about what happened in the 90s to the hobby we all love so much. Most of us are engaged in it in an effort to sell a little bit here and there so that we can make a little extra cash to afford the books we love, want to read, etc. Every comic retailer is forced to engage in it in some manner or another when they fill out their montly order form. I wish that as a community the board members did a better job of being honest with themselves about the speculation we are all engaged in, helped one another not make terrible decisions, etc. It's nice to see when good comics do well because of the quality of the work rather than the number of people stockpiling books. For me, the strangest development in this era of comics is that 2nd prints are now sometimes more valuable than first prints. We've seen it with the first issue of the Hush story arc b/c of the awesome Jim Lee cover, Walking Dead No. 33, etc. Things like that and the sucess of books like the Walking Dead will forever make speculation difficult. I just hope and pray every day that we don't see pwople who are not fans of the work buying comics in bulks as a future investment. This is clearly straying from the topic, but I'll say it anyway (and I've said it before) I think we are very lucky to be reading comics at this time in the history of the hobby because of the quality of the work that is being produced. I for one, feel very lucky to be collecting and reading comics right now and Robert Kirkman's wonderful series and awesome TV show (which got snubbed by the a**holes at the emmys) are responsible for bring so many of us back to the hobby who left b/c of the 90's melt down caused by the type of conduct I described above (among other things of course). End of rant.
#5867544 - 07/22/1201:27 PMRe: Next Breakout Walking Dead Comic
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Originally Posted By: NewEnglandGothic
Originally Posted By: Nico Esq
Originally Posted By: NewEnglandGothic
I agree on this with you, George on the basis of my experience with the Locke & Key preview books. Other than Angel: After The Fall #3, none of the previews in my encounters were treated all that well. Most weren't even bagged and boarded. I mean who is gonna treat a Doctor Who Classics #2 like a premium book anyway.
What I'm wondering is... where there more preview books before those. I spent a lot ours in New England comic shops going through back-issues working on my title. Has anyone did the same for TWD?
I thought it was an unwritten rule with Image previews that the run them in two books? That's what they've done with Thief of Thieves, Fatale, Danger Club, Harvetst, Revival, etc.
But, this was back in 2003. Even Invincible had more than two previews (I think- I remember another one after Masters of the Universe and Savage Dragon... But I could be thinking of Noble Causes too.).
#5867549 - 07/22/1201:31 PMRe: Next Breakout Walking Dead Comic
[Re: Solar]
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Originally Posted By: Solar
I still don't get this whole 'first preview appearance' thing. Action #12 is the first Batman in an ad and nobody gives a damn.
I think the only book that sets historical precedence is Gobbledygook with the TMNT ad, but that would be valuable anyway because it's so rare.
I think the distinction for collectors is that there are actual pages of the comic so it's kind of like an ashcan (which as you are well aware was considered worthless until the 80s and 90s? I don't know ... I'm just thinking out loud and asking for input from others more than anything else. It could be manufactured by retailers who were able to buy cases of otherwise worthless comics or collectors who are fanatic about having every single appearance or a combination of a lot of different things. I guess the more important question is how these books will be treated in a year, five year, ten years, etc.?
