I talked to Matt N today and he said only black magic markers wont show up in black light, and other magic marker colors would. So I dont think there is any color touch because the areas in question are the dark red on spidey's left arm in the AF 15 and the very top purple edge. He said he would need to see the top edge of the book to confirm.
#5798129 - 06/25/1212:29 PMRe: How to spot restoration....?
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Originally Posted By: red rocks
mastercontrolprogram emailed me and said that dark colors usually wont show under black light. I believe he was talking about magic marker dark colors.
As far as I know it's not specific to magic marker, it's completely an effect of color and light--with black light you can't see black color touch with any kind of material from magic marker that bleeds to acrylic paint that doesn't.
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i just bought a fantastic four #1 on ebay....it looked good online - maybe at least a 4 or 5, and the buy it now was 2600.....but as we all know it was too good to be true. it was hard for me to spot restoration, but cgc caught it. color retouch, spine split sealed, staples replaced, tears sealed...basically the book was completely taken apart, retouched, and put back together. on the plus side, it graded a 6.5 - and even better, "only" moderate (a). so still a good deal id say. at least break even. probably put it up for sale, i saw a 6.0 go on ebay for over 6K, and the proceeds will go towards a blue label. i wouldnt mind restored copies so much, if everyone else didnt hate them so much along with their PLOD.
#5875945 - 07/25/1209:36 PMRe: How to spot restoration....?
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I found restoration on one comic (after it was graded ) that didn't show with a blacklight - but did show when I tweaked a photo of it in Photoshop. I set the brightness to 100% and contrast to -100% and it was clear as day: marker used to fill in some creases along the spine. Amateur night resto!
The answer is... a good job of restoration, you probably won't be able to tell. I use to sell postage stamps. And even in that small of an area of a stamp, it was almost impossible to tell a lot of the time if there were repairs or not.
And grading companies don't know either. I had sent many stamps into be graded. Had a Scott #1 with a hole big enough to throw a cat through, come back graded as perfect.
Bought a CGC graded copy of an old superman comic. Thought it had some type of crease in the center. I cracked open the case to find it was really a giant long black hair, that the grader must have left in the case.
Trimming? My local comic book dealer is under impression, that if you measure the comics sides you can tell if it has been trimmed. Honk Honk, wrong answer. that will only work if there is obvious trimming. Some comics were simply trimmed different at different times. It's not like they really cared back then how they cut the books, so we could make sure today they haven't been trimmed. they didn't care at all, and the books came out any which way they happen to, especially the older ones.
#6369165 - 02/04/1306:42 PMRe: How to spot restoration....?
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Put this link up in the PGM Hulk 181 thread. One or two individuals suggested there may be restoration but my eyes aren't seasoned enough to see what is possibly restored. The comic is not in hand yet, but rest assured I'm going to black light it when it arrives. If it doesn't pass the sniff test it's going back. Purchased raw on the bay with a return policy of 14 days. Please help me out by reviewing these images and telling me what your impressions are. All comments are appreciated:
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If you have West telling you something, I'd listen. Aside from the guy who actually did the resto to the book, you're not going to get a more qualified opinion on it.
) that didn't show with a blacklight - but did show when I tweaked a photo of it in Photoshop. I set the brightness to 100% and contrast to -100% and it was clear as day: marker used to fill in some creases along the spine. Amateur night resto!
