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#5773602 - 06/15/12 07:16 PM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: Hard Times]
Dudley the 1st Offline
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I'm with the EF-40
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#5773702 - 06/15/12 08:00 PM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: Dudley the 1st]
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 Originally Posted By: Dudley the 1st
I'm with the EF-40


I'll go with AU55. And if there is something wrong enough with the coin that warrants it being net graded down ro XF, it shouldn't be graded at all. Sorry, but XF would be a silly grade for that coin.
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#5773712 - 06/15/12 08:08 PM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: MarkFeld]
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I would say AU-58
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#5773802 - 06/15/12 08:54 PM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: BillJones]
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 Originally Posted By: BillJones
The 1807 dimes were all made with one set of dies that became absolutely wretched at the end. The die pair was pushed almost beyond endurance. This coin has a lot of hair detail and the weakness on the left side of the reverse does not bother me from a grading perspective. The thing that does bother me is the pattern of marks in back of Ms. Liberty’s head and the surfaces through stars 5 through 7. Those do not look like clash marks or die damage to me. They look like post minting damage, and if that’s so this coin will not get a third party grade.



What he said!

I would say it has details in the AU range, though the luster, which does not show in the pics, will be the determining factor as to which AU grade.
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#5774038 - 06/15/12 10:24 PM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: Hard Times]
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TOTAL NEWBIE, makes no sense and seems very paradoxical and counter-intuitive.

Is it a very lame attempt at sarcastic humor??

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It looks to be at least an AU 55 and maybe a 58. If CAC stickered it, it has likely graded out without problem.
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#5774095 - 06/15/12 10:46 PM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: Hard Times]
AnkurJ Offline
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Let the controversy begin! \:D

Once I get it in hand, I will be taking this back to CAC to ask why it didnt get a gold.



Edited by AnkurJ (06/15/12 10:47 PM)

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#5774397 - 06/16/12 12:46 AM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: AnkurJ]
FishyOne Online   content
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Looks 20 points undergraded. The obverse has AU detail for sure. The reverse could have dropped it to XF45 - maybe.

30 doesn't make sense unless there is something that should have put it in a problem holder and it's net graded way down. Which is likely what happened and CAC overlooked the problems too, since it's graded so low. The value drops in half from 50 to 30 so it's likely a great buy and well worth CAC's desire to own it.

Just for giggles take a look at this PCGS VF35 sold by Stacks a couple years ago: Stacks 1807 Bust Dime
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#5774662 - 06/16/12 07:37 AM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: Hard Times]
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Registered: 01/06/12
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what is it that can be seen in hand but not in the photos????? there is something
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#5774960 - 06/16/12 12:59 PM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: wheat'swheats]
Walkerfan Online   offline

TOTAL NEWBIE, makes no sense and seems very paradoxical and counter-intuitive.

Is it a very lame attempt at sarcastic humor??

If you have a dream about out-posting me, you better wake up and apologize.


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\:o Oh my goodness!

That coin, although likely not a 58, should certainly have graded in the AU RANGE.

Maybe it was net graded due to the disturbance in the left facing field, as Bill Jones pointed out.
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#5775023 - 06/16/12 01:37 PM Re: Grade the Bust Dime! [Re: Walkerfan]
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There must be cleaning or something in hand that has kept this at least under XF+, if not AU. I don't know why you wouldn't have this back at PCGS within a day.
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