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#5718813 - 05/27/12 07:48 AM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: Chuck Gower]
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 Originally Posted By: Chuck Gower
But being one of the biggest superstar artists of the time; being as outspoken as he was (remember the McFarlane/Peter David debate?); and on top of that, becoming as successful as he did; it sort of makes him the #1 target of blame to anyone who looks at how the industry changed and collecting changed during that period.
And of course it led to a market implosion that we still haven't recovered from.


The ongoing court case with Gaiman didn't make McFarlane look the best either.

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#5718824 - 05/27/12 07:59 AM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: Bosco685]
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 Originally Posted By: Bosco685
 Originally Posted By: Chuck Gower
But being one of the biggest superstar artists of the time; being as outspoken as he was (remember the McFarlane/Peter David debate?); and on top of that, becoming as successful as he did; it sort of makes him the #1 target of blame to anyone who looks at how the industry changed and collecting changed during that period.
And of course it led to a market implosion that we still haven't recovered from.


The ongoing court case with Gaiman didn't make McFarlane look the best either.

\:p


No it didn't, though that came a bit later.
Todd needs to stay away from the court's or get a new lawyer. I don't think he's won anything he's gone to court for!
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#5718841 - 05/27/12 08:10 AM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: Chuck Gower]
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But I do feel this was one of the more creative signatures on a cover that I have seen.

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#5718982 - 05/27/12 09:57 AM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: Bosco685]
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Since I'm always looking for GI Joe trivia let me throw out these questions about McFarlane's tenure at Marvel:

So in 1987 McFarlane did interior art for 2 GI Joe comics; issues 60 & 61. The story I've always heard is that the interior art for #61 was rejected by Marvel and the comic was redrawn by someone else and then released. About 8 years later in 1994, 2 months after the series had ended, the interior for 61 originally rejected by Marvel was compiled and sold with the Snake-Eyes cover that was drawn after the McFarlane Spidey pose on Spiderman #1 (apparently the art wasn't so bad that Marvel didn't think they could make a dime off of it!).

So was this the only McFarlane art known to be rejected by Marvel? When did McFarlane leave Marvel and then start Image? I guess Marvel had already paid for the issue to be drawn so they owned the rights which allowed them to publish it 8 years later?

Just curious if someone had all these details...

comics in question:
GI JOE #60



GI JOE Special #1
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#5719190 - 05/27/12 11:49 AM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: maraxusofkeld]
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Even though he doesn't do sketches anymore, does anybody wanna take a guess on how much he'll charge for one.
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#5720190 - 05/27/12 06:29 PM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: B767293]
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My friends and I liked his art growing up. He had great attention to detail. While his artwork was great, his story writing was a little bland.

Is it more important to have great artwork or an interesting story?
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#5720817 - 05/27/12 10:35 PM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: maraxusofkeld]
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He's genuinely not a good artist in my opinion, although there have been some images he's done that came out okay. Although I don't like him, I think there are a ton of artists who draw exactly like him and escape the criticism. I bought the Anita Blake trade for a dollar on Black Friday and a few pages in had to double check the credits to make sure it wasn't a Liefeld comic. Exact same style and exact same mistakes throughout



EDIT: Oh, we're not talking about Liefeld lol

Same can be said for McFarlane though, as well as Lee, Valentino, and every other artist of the era that drew super heroes


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#5720826 - 05/27/12 10:41 PM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: Chuck Gower]
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 Originally Posted By: Chuck Gower
 Originally Posted By: Bosco685
 Originally Posted By: Chuck Gower
But being one of the biggest superstar artists of the time; being as outspoken as he was (remember the McFarlane/Peter David debate?); and on top of that, becoming as successful as he did; it sort of makes him the #1 target of blame to anyone who looks at how the industry changed and collecting changed during that period.
And of course it led to a market implosion that we still haven't recovered from.


The ongoing court case with Gaiman didn't make McFarlane look the best either.

\:p


No it didn't, though that came a bit later.
Todd needs to stay away from the court's or get a new lawyer. I don't think he's won anything he's gone to court for!

lol

My favorite was the Tony Twist trial/suit. Twist argued the Tony Twistelli character defamed him. McFarlane argued the character was not named after Twist. The litigating attorney produced a letters page where McFarlane stated he liked to name characters after hockey players.

Game over.
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#5722419 - 05/28/12 01:17 PM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: Silent Master]
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 Originally Posted By: Silent Master
Since I'm always looking for GI Joe trivia let me throw out these questions about McFarlane's tenure at Marvel:

So in 1987 McFarlane did interior art for 2 GI Joe comics; issues 60 & 61. The story I've always heard is that the interior art for #61 was rejected by Marvel and the comic was redrawn by someone else and then released. About 8 years later in 1994, 2 months after the series had ended, the interior for 61 originally rejected by Marvel was compiled and sold with the Snake-Eyes cover that was drawn after the McFarlane Spidey pose on Spiderman #1 (apparently the art wasn't so bad that Marvel didn't think they could make a dime off of it!).

So was this the only McFarlane art known to be rejected by Marvel? When did McFarlane leave Marvel and then start Image? I guess Marvel had already paid for the issue to be drawn so they owned the rights which allowed them to publish it 8 years later?

Just curious if someone had all these details...




This is a good source of info:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/20/comic-book-legends-revealed-182/

Nice SS books!!

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#5723328 - 05/28/12 06:32 PM Re: Why does McFarlane's Marvel stuff get such a bad rub from most people? [Re: pubmonkey]
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 Originally Posted By: pubmonkey
 Originally Posted By: Silent Master
Since I'm always looking for GI Joe trivia let me throw out these questions about McFarlane's tenure at Marvel:

So in 1987 McFarlane did interior art for 2 GI Joe comics; issues 60 & 61. The story I've always heard is that the interior art for #61 was rejected by Marvel and the comic was redrawn by someone else and then released. About 8 years later in 1994, 2 months after the series had ended, the interior for 61 originally rejected by Marvel was compiled and sold with the Snake-Eyes cover that was drawn after the McFarlane Spidey pose on Spiderman #1 (apparently the art wasn't so bad that Marvel didn't think they could make a dime off of it!).

So was this the only McFarlane art known to be rejected by Marvel? When did McFarlane leave Marvel and then start Image? I guess Marvel had already paid for the issue to be drawn so they owned the rights which allowed them to publish it 8 years later?

Just curious if someone had all these details...




This is a good source of info:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/20/comic-book-legends-revealed-182/

Nice SS books!!



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