On May 5, I sent a PM invoice to a buyer, which was read by the recipient, but I received no response and no payment. Four days later, I sent a PM reminder, which was also read -- still no response and no payment. I sent a third reminder a day later, and added that taking more time to pay would be fine by me, but that he needed to get in touch with me to discuss the terms. To date, this third PM has not been read.
So now I'm nearly 10 days into this with no $$, even though the terms of my sales thread clearly stated that "Payment is via PayPal only, and is expected within 3 days of closing the deal (unless we've made other arrangements via PM)."
I know I can't propose the guy for the probie list until after 30 days. But in the meantime, I really need the $$. So is it cool for me to put the book up for sale again if, after 2 weeks from the original invoice, I still haven't got a response or any payment? The downside, of course, is that I guess this would nullify any probie action which could be taken.
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#5682396 - 05/15/1205:02 AMRe: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems
[Re: Pirate]
I would like to add qualitycomix to the list. He had a huge sale that basically ended on 4/11/12. No money has been exchanged, but I thought it was poor form as I probably put the sign guy on $70 worth of books and he vanished. He came on a week later and purchased something and then disappeared completely.
#5682594 - 05/15/1208:38 AMRe: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems
[Re: jools&jim]
JeffroJeffro Speaking as myself, I don't deserve anything.
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Originally Posted By: jools&jim
Not sure how to handle the following situation:
On May 5, I sent a PM invoice to a buyer, which was read by the recipient, but I received no response and no payment. Four days later, I sent a PM reminder, which was also read -- still no response and no payment. I sent a third reminder a day later, and added that taking more time to pay would be fine by me, but that he needed to get in touch with me to discuss the terms. To date, this third PM has not been read.
So now I'm nearly 10 days into this with no $$, even though the terms of my sales thread clearly stated that "Payment is via PayPal only, and is expected within 3 days of closing the deal (unless we've made other arrangements via PM)."
I know I can't propose the guy for the probie list until after 30 days. But in the meantime, I really need the $$. So is it cool for me to put the book up for sale again if, after 2 weeks from the original invoice, I still haven't got a response or any payment? The downside, of course, is that I guess this would nullify any probie action which could be taken.
Any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks! -Mikey
You've given him ample opportunity to come through and he hasn't. If it were me, I'd send one last PM stating that since he hasn't paid, the book will be relisted. Even if he never reads it, you will still have proof that you've given him more than enough chances to pay.
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#5682643 - 05/15/1209:03 AMRe: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems
[Re: Jeffro]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Originally Posted By: jools&jim
Not sure how to handle the following situation:
On May 5, I sent a PM invoice to a buyer, which was read by the recipient, but I received no response and no payment. Four days later, I sent a PM reminder, which was also read -- still no response and no payment. I sent a third reminder a day later, and added that taking more time to pay would be fine by me, but that he needed to get in touch with me to discuss the terms. To date, this third PM has not been read.
So now I'm nearly 10 days into this with no $$, even though the terms of my sales thread clearly stated that "Payment is via PayPal only, and is expected within 3 days of closing the deal (unless we've made other arrangements via PM)."
I know I can't propose the guy for the probie list until after 30 days. But in the meantime, I really need the $$. So is it cool for me to put the book up for sale again if, after 2 weeks from the original invoice, I still haven't got a response or any payment? The downside, of course, is that I guess this would nullify any probie action which could be taken.
Any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks! -Mikey
You've given him ample opportunity to come through and he hasn't. If it were me, I'd send one last PM stating that since he hasn't paid, the book will be relisted. Even if he never reads it, you will still have proof that you've given him more than enough chances to pay.
It's simple - put it back up for sale. Also, since he most likely will not get nominated here - who is it? You've been nicey nicey with pms so out him here and maybe he'll finally respond.
#5682887 - 05/15/1210:40 AMRe: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems
[Re: GetMeOutOfHere]
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I am having a hard time understanding what the issue is with Quality...even reading this thread. Can someone please fill me in in one syllable words. lol.
At any rate....I have one previous purchase with Quality and it was a very positive experience. I know one purchase is a small sample....but it was a good one, so i am certainly more than willing to give him a chance.
I have heard before that Brent at Quality has communication issues. I can relate since it took me a while to get ahold of him with that first purchase (but once I did it worked out well and quickly).
If anyone is having problems with him that are not related to communication I would love to know.
Until then....he has a fan in me.
Edit----Oh, I see. He started a sales thread and didn't follow through. OK. I am less worried. I will definitely keep people on here posted about my recent purchase though, when it is complete.
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Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Originally Posted By: jools&jim
Not sure how to handle the following situation:
On May 5, I sent a PM invoice to a buyer, which was read by the recipient, but I received no response and no payment. Four days later, I sent a PM reminder, which was also read -- still no response and no payment. I sent a third reminder a day later, and added that taking more time to pay would be fine by me, but that he needed to get in touch with me to discuss the terms. To date, this third PM has not been read.
So now I'm nearly 10 days into this with no $$, even though the terms of my sales thread clearly stated that "Payment is via PayPal only, and is expected within 3 days of closing the deal (unless we've made other arrangements via PM)."
I know I can't propose the guy for the probie list until after 30 days. But in the meantime, I really need the $$. So is it cool for me to put the book up for sale again if, after 2 weeks from the original invoice, I still haven't got a response or any payment? The downside, of course, is that I guess this would nullify any probie action which could be taken.
Any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks! -Mikey
You've given him ample opportunity to come through and he hasn't. If it were me, I'd send one last PM stating that since he hasn't paid, the book will be relisted. Even if he never reads it, you will still have proof that you've given him more than enough chances to pay.
Hey all...thanks for the advice. I'm going to give the buyer a few more days, then send him a final PM and re-list the book.
I don't feel comfortable outing him at this point. He might have had a family emergency or have been called out of town unexpectedly for all I know. Given that he read 2 of my PMs, I kinda doubt it, but ya never know. So better to err on the side of caution...
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I am having a hard time understanding what the issue is with Quality...even reading this thread. Can someone please fill me in in one syllable words. lol.
At any rate....I have one previous purchase with Quality and it was a very positive experience. I know one purchase is a small sample....but it was a good one, so i am certainly more than willing to give him a chance.
I have heard before that Brent at Quality has communication issues. I can relate since it took me a while to get ahold of him with that first purchase (but once I did it worked out well and quickly).
If anyone is having problems with him that are not related to communication I would love to know.
Until then....he has a fan in me.
Edit----Oh, I see. He started a sales thread and didn't follow through. OK. I am less worried. I will definitely keep people on here posted about my recent purchase though, when it is complete.
The books from that thread are all here and ready to be shipped. Everything that is ever paid for via the boards, ebay or QualityComix.com will be shipped and shipped promptly. Check out my feedback on ebay. I hadn't sent out PM invoices but I didn't think that is sufficient to be discussed in a Probation thread.
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I am having a hard time understanding what the issue is with Quality...even reading this thread. Can someone please fill me in in one syllable words. lol.
At any rate....I have one previous purchase with Quality and it was a very positive experience. I know one purchase is a small sample....but it was a good one, so i am certainly more than willing to give him a chance.
I have heard before that Brent at Quality has communication issues. I can relate since it took me a while to get ahold of him with that first purchase (but once I did it worked out well and quickly).
If anyone is having problems with him that are not related to communication I would love to know.
Until then....he has a fan in me.
Edit----Oh, I see. He started a sales thread and didn't follow through. OK. I am less worried. I will definitely keep people on here posted about my recent purchase though, when it is complete.
The books from that thread are all here and ready to be shipped. Everything that is ever paid for via the boards, ebay or QualityComix.com will be shipped and shipped promptly. Check out my feedback on ebay. I hadn't sent out PM invoices but I didn't think that is sufficient to be discussed in a Probation thread.
If it ended on or about the 11th of last month, as I think Pirate mentioned, then that's more than 30 days, no?
"The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased." - Alexander Hamilton
Yep, and I believe the intent of probation lists are for a) buyers who don't pay on time or b) sellers who don't ship books after being paid.
Actually, as I was replying to you, I was wondering whether the new rules we made up address a seller just blowing off sales, but ... a huge part of the intent of the probation list is to keep buyers and sellers honest, and to keep transactions flowing smoothly. I don't see why this would not include the part of the transaction between the and the PM invoice, or other means of facilitating payment.
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and the PM invoice, or other means of facilitating payment.
