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#5655211 - 05/05/12 06:17 PM Re: Is it ok to commission an inker to work on pencil art you don't own? [Re: AtlasFan]
Mike Jackson Offline
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As long as it is clearly marked as "after Kirby," etc, it really shouldn't make a difference.

That said, if you know that it was commissioned privately by someone, etiquette would probably demand that you to ask permission of the original commissioner if possible.

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#5656499 - 05/06/12 09:55 AM Re: Is it ok to commission an inker to work on pencil art you don't own? [Re: jick]
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 Originally Posted By: jick
What do you think about the propriety/ethics of commissioning inkers to work on penciled art that you don't own, such as: scanned convention sketches, posted penciled art on CAF, or other similar artworks?

Some examples would be Kirby for vintage art, and Jim Lee for modern art. There are a lot of Kirby pencils floating around either in published or simply scanned form. Jim Lee himself posts scans of his pencilled art before sending it to Scott Williams for inking.

On a personal note, I once found pencil art online, grabbed it, and had a pro inker work on it. But it didn't post it on CAF.

On the flip side, how would you feel if you own original pencil art that you post on CAF, and then see someone commission an inker to ink over a grabbed copy of your posted pencil art?

Just want to know all your thoughts on this matter.


I really don't like this. Someone did this on one of my pencil pieces and now I rarely ever post pencil pieces because of that. I called the guy out on several boards and left a blistering comment on CAF as I think it is theft.

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#5656516 - 05/06/12 10:04 AM Re: Is it ok to commission an inker to work on pencil art you don't own? [Re: Michael (OML)]
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 Originally Posted By: Michael (OML)
 Originally Posted By: jick
What do you think about the propriety/ethics of commissioning inkers to work on penciled art that you don't own, such as: scanned convention sketches, posted penciled art on CAF, or other similar artworks?

Some examples would be Kirby for vintage art, and Jim Lee for modern art. There are a lot of Kirby pencils floating around either in published or simply scanned form. Jim Lee himself posts scans of his pencilled art before sending it to Scott Williams for inking.

On a personal note, I once found pencil art online, grabbed it, and had a pro inker work on it. But it didn't post it on CAF.

On the flip side, how would you feel if you own original pencil art that you post on CAF, and then see someone commission an inker to ink over a grabbed copy of your posted pencil art?

Just want to know all your thoughts on this matter.

I called the guy out on several boards and left a blistering comment on CAF .


did that make you feel better? hm
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#5656650 - 05/06/12 11:25 AM Re: Is it ok to commission an inker to work on pencil art you don't own? [Re: lookwhoitis]
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 Originally Posted By: lookwhoitis
 Originally Posted By: Michael (OML)
 Originally Posted By: jick
What do you think about the propriety/ethics of commissioning inkers to work on penciled art that you don't own, such as: scanned convention sketches, posted penciled art on CAF, or other similar artworks?

Some examples would be Kirby for vintage art, and Jim Lee for modern art. There are a lot of Kirby pencils floating around either in published or simply scanned form. Jim Lee himself posts scans of his pencilled art before sending it to Scott Williams for inking.

On a personal note, I once found pencil art online, grabbed it, and had a pro inker work on it. But it didn't post it on CAF.

On the flip side, how would you feel if you own original pencil art that you post on CAF, and then see someone commission an inker to ink over a grabbed copy of your posted pencil art?

Just want to know all your thoughts on this matter.

I called the guy out on several boards and left a blistering comment on CAF .


did that make you feel better? hm


Nope -- it made me think that I should stop displaying the artwork that I commission anymore -- I think a tremendous breach of etiquette to take someone else's commission (artwork they paid for) and then ink it for yourself. I guess if you really cannot find the owner and you have tried very hard that might be one thing but I do not and would not consent to someone doing that to a piece of artwork I own. I would simply stop posting any pencil pieces.

There is not much difference between inking someone else's penciled piece versus taking their inked piece, coloring it and putting that in your gallery. I just think it completely wrong.

Michael

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