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#5652529 - 05/04/12 03:12 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: Bochiman]
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Yes you can. Takes dedication to the series, hard work, and looking at many, many coins, and hitting the books too. \:\)
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#5652633 - 05/04/12 03:55 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: leeg]
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I think you can be an expert and grading multiple series.....but to be an expert at them all would be near impossible.
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#5652685 - 05/04/12 04:22 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: kryptonitecomics]
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Knowing how to grade one series certainly makes it easier to learn to grade another series since the basic principles of coin grading applies to all coins.
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#5652763 - 05/04/12 04:53 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: PerryHall]
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Aren't TPG graders expected to grade a wide range of series?

We consider them experts no?
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#5652868 - 05/04/12 05:28 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: Dcoin]
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It is much easier if you stay with the same metal composition and size.
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#5652875 - 05/04/12 05:33 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: e1cnr]
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If you are an expert grader of one series, it is certainly much easier to become a proficient grader of another series. You would need to learn the characteristics particular to the series - strike, luster, areas of concern, date and issue characteristics, etc. However, the basics of grading, and the experience of applying that, are going to be the same and will aid in grading the new series. The more similar the series, the more quickly someone will be able to master it - if you are an expert at St. Gaudens gold, very little of that knowledge and experience will transfer to grading early copper. But if you are an expert at grading Walking Liberty halves, it is not all that different to grade Standing Liberty quarters, or Barber halves or such.
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#5652890 - 05/04/12 05:39 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: MarkFeld]
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 Originally Posted By: MarkFeld
Do you agree or disagree? Either way, why?



I had every intention of keeping my opinion to myself on this matter. I lost the stress inducing self restraint battle.

The definition of expert has to be clarified. It is not enough to state :as judged by peers, well known, etc.

Would it not be proper to phrase as follows: "...if you are an expert opinion grader ...".

The problem is, as always, vision. Unless all graders are equal in depth perception, vision strength, color clarity, spatial ability, etc., etc., the phrase "expert" is misleading.

The academic part? Certainly, one can acheive superiority in muliple-indeed all- series. This is a function of time and learning ability.

I would proffer there are no numismatic experts.

TPGs are the proof of my position.

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#5652982 - 05/04/12 06:09 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: johncurlis]
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I really doubt it. I think everyone gets a surprise from time to time grading coins we currently think we know. I think I'm "getting there" with Morgans but NGC seems to have different opinions almost every shipment. Because that's the case, to assume that one knows all there is to know about a series that's not his/her specialty seems a very tall task.

Basic grading "by the book" is a whole different matter. I think most competent graders can pick out an XF from a VF.

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#5653313 - 05/04/12 08:04 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: TomB]
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 Originally Posted By: TomB
You can possibly learn to become an expert grader in another series.


My thoughts exactly.

And, to retain the knowledge, you would need ongoing practice and feedback from others or your skills would atrophy.

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#5653403 - 05/04/12 08:30 PM Re: If you are an expert grader of one series, you can be the same with other series [Re: No+4Me]
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Is it a very lame attempt at sarcastic humor??

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You MAY become an expert in a second or maybe even a third series but across all boards and all series like an 'omni-grader'--there's just no way---just too many subtle nuances and characteristics to master. It's like asking an athlete to excel in ALL sports---won't happen. You can be PROFICIENT in all but being a specialist is MUCH more limited in scope.
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