There doesn't have to be overhang. When books were published all pages were equally trimmed along with the cover at the same time. Overhang is a product of the aging of the book. The more fresh the book, the less overhang there is going to be on a SA Marvel.
So the cover expands?
Yes. Or the interior contracts. Not sure which it is.
Think about the grain of a piece of paper. You know how paper tears easily one way but turn it 90 degrees and it doesn't tear cleanly? That is the grain of the paper allowing it in one direction but not the other.
In the same way as lumber changes form as it dries (tree lumber has moisture trapped in the fibres as does paper), paper does as well. The grain of the paper determines which direction the shape changes.
As the paper dries, it changes size more one way than another because of the grain.
One thing I am quite certain of is that comics were trimmed on 3 edges (cover and interiors).
Another thing I am certain of is that as comics age, some covers are flush with interiors while others (of the exact same issue) seem to have overhang at top and bottom and seem a little short at the right (open) edge.
Did the interiors shrink or did the covers enlarge horizontally? Did the interiors expand or did the cover shrink horizontally?
I don't know.
What I do know is that the freshest copies of any Silver Age Marvels that I have held seem to have the least amount of overhang, to the point that I thought they might be trimmed and yet they received a CGC blue label.
There doesn't have to be overhang. When books were published all pages were equally trimmed along with the cover at the same time. Overhang is a product of the aging of the book. The more fresh the book, the less overhang there is going to be on a SA Marvel.
So every curator should have no overhang.
I'm not saying the curator books weren't fresh. I just know that there are some conditions that are able to prevent pages from changing size. It might have to do with ambient temperature, humidity, air, pressure or a combination of things.
Those books that I have seen without overhang were really fresh, white copies.
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Originally Posted By: VintageComics
DiceX who used to work for printing plants that printed comics (Eastern Colour I believe) has already stated that Silver Age comics were printed by attaching covers to interiors by stapling them, then folding them and then trimming the edges to size.
Where'd Dice's thread go that explained all this? I thought it was stickied in either this forum or the grading forum, but I'm not seeing that.
DiceX who used to work for printing plants that printed comics (Eastern Colour I believe) has already stated that Silver Age comics were printed by attaching covers to interiors by stapling them, then folding them and then trimming the edges to size.
Where'd Dice's thread go that explained all this? I thought it was stickied in either this forum or the grading forum, but I'm not seeing that.
You can read it but the proof is right on the comic books. The serrations and ridges on the edges of SA Marvels up to about 1966/67 line up on both the cover and the interiors. You don't need more proof than that.
DiceX who used to work for printing plants that printed comics (Eastern Colour I believe) has already stated that Silver Age comics were printed by attaching covers to interiors by stapling them, then folding them and then trimming the edges to size.
Where'd Dice's thread go that explained all this? I thought it was stickied in either this forum or the grading forum, but I'm not seeing that.
Wait a minute!!!
You got rid of the gif with the hottest girl ive ever seen gyrating for that tired old fall in trying to push the dog in gif?!?!?
You should get a weeks suspension minimum for that crime against the board!!!
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Originally Posted By: VintageComics
Originally Posted By: fantastic_four
Originally Posted By: VintageComics
DiceX who used to work for printing plants that printed comics (Eastern Colour I believe) has already stated that Silver Age comics were printed by attaching covers to interiors by stapling them, then folding them and then trimming the edges to size.
Where'd Dice's thread go that explained all this? I thought it was stickied in either this forum or the grading forum, but I'm not seeing that.
You can read it but the proof is right on the comic books. The serrations and ridges on the edges of SA Marvels up to about 1966/67 line up on both the cover and the interiors. You don't need more proof than that.
All you need to do is read your comics.
This would be my understanding based upon similar observations.
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#5641687 - 04/30/1207:50 PMRe: ASM #39 cgc 9.8 on the bay...
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Originally Posted By: fantastic_four
Originally Posted By: VintageComics
DiceX who used to work for printing plants that printed comics (Eastern Colour I believe) has already stated that Silver Age comics were printed by attaching covers to interiors by stapling them, then folding them and then trimming the edges to size.
Where'd Dice's thread go that explained all this? I thought it was stickied in either this forum or the grading forum, but I'm not seeing that.
Wait a minute!!!
You got rid of the gif with the hottest girl ive ever seen gyrating for that tired old fall in trying to push the dog in gif?!?!?
You should get a weeks suspension minimum for that crime against the board!!!
Hmm...alright then, I just changed it to something that should be much more in line with your tastes.
So the cover expands? 
