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#5630980 - 04/26/12 03:54 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: Scrooge]
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 Originally Posted By: Scrooge
Oh hell, ask your questions already, we'll reply and I'll learn a few things or two at the same time. No kidding, I encourage anyone to post their questions in the GA forum in new or old threads since this is a continuing education exercise. I learn new stuff most every week on the boards.

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I'd rather more questions get asked. Search can be difficult to use -- I try and bookmark interesting threads as I find it too challenging to search for some of the good threads.

If you are concerned about flooding the forum then dedicate this thread to be the location for all of your questions. Those that wish to assist in answering (or wanting to read the answers) will be able to do so. Those that wish to ignore them will also be easily able to do that as well.

Good Luck!
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#5631054 - 04/26/12 04:28 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: Doohickamabob]
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 Originally Posted By: Doohickamabob
 Originally Posted By: Reno McCoy

Which brings me to my question...I know this place is a wealth of information, but man oh man, there are tons of threads to wade through. It's overwhelming to see all of this knowledge. Are there any places online you'd recommend I start going to? Some place to familiarize myself with this era of comics?


(1) First thing you should do is familiarize yourself with the search function on the site. It takes some trial-and-error but it will help make some sense of the sea of text this site has accumulated.

I just used the search to find a past thread about good books that delve into the history of comics.

(2) Here are some books I recommended in the above thread:

-- "Comix: A History of Comic Books in America" by Les Daniels
-- "A Smithsonian Book of Comic-Book Comics," edited by Michael Barrier and Martin Williams
-- "Great American Comic Books" by Ron Goulart
-- "Comics: Between the Panels" by Duin Richardson

Also, the Gerber Photo-Journals, and the Overstreet Price Guide, are very cool resources. The Photo-Journals are two big books with full-color glossy pictures of most of the great golden-age books (there are also similar journals focusing on silver-age stuff). They can often be found for about $30-$50 plus shipping.

The Overstreet Price Guide gives you a relative sense of the value of everything, as well as containing myriad notes and details about particular titles and issues. These days the book is not considered as essential as it used to be, thanks to numerous online resources. But I still find it pretty indispensable.

(3) Get to know the various online resources. There is a thread somewhere that lists a great many of them.... I will search for it....

Okay, here it is .

Learn the various sites out there, and bookmark your favorites. New sites are cropping up all the time. Some of the older ones have died out (or should).

(4) Learn grading. Learn condition. Learn to spot restoration (glue, tape, tear seals, color touch, trimming, etc.). Many collectors, when first starting, will have to climb a steep curve on this stuff, and they'll probably pay a financial price for it. I can't tell you how many golden-age comics I bought and didn't know they were restored. Later on when I decided to sell them, I sold them as restored and often took a steep loss as a result, which I considered the payment for learning. There were also many comics I bought that had problems I didn't realize were problems, only to look over the comics years later and say, "Wait a minute....the center wrap page is missing! All this time I thought I had a complete copy! Augghh!"

(5) Resist the urge to make it about financial investment. Make sure the hobby is fun and the focus is mostly on the art and stories and history. Let the financial part be a happy by-product. It gets too cynical if people are just buying things to press and flip, or speculate.....I don't believe in treating comics like they're stock certificates, even though there are parallels.

(6) When collecting, take it slowly and try to figure out a collecting focus. It is more fun if you narrow down your goals to particular publishers, artists, themes, or whatever. If you don't, you might find you run out of buying resources too quickly and end up with a very random collection. Of course, sometimes you have to buy stuff just to figure out whether you like it, so feel free to make mistakes or shift gears along the way.

(7) Take pics, share stories, spread the joy of the hobby.

\:o

This place rules!

You guys rule!

Thanks for helping me so much already. I've read a lot of this thread over the years, but it's so easy to get lost when I hop back and forth between moderns and bronze and copper. But now that I've honed in some goals, I think I'll be hanging around a bit more. Although, I will admit, it's daunting. All the knowledge is great, but I have the personality that makes me feel...I don't know..."less than" just because I'm still at the kid's table as I learn the ropes.

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#5631078 - 04/26/12 04:36 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: Reno McCoy]
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I'm typically pretty guarded with my collecting goals, but I'll tell ya, my goals (for all comic eras) right now are focused (almost) entirely on books that feature a damsel in distress on the cover with the hero attempting to save her.* I'm fascinated with heroes saving or protecting the damsels. Heck, I'd go so far as to say I'm more impressed with those covers that the hero is apparently powerless to save her, or those in which the damsel has apparently caused the hero to get in danger himself.

I know there are tons of books out there that have this theme, but I've always liked that about comics and adventure novels.

As far as my research goes, I'd like to begin to find an understanding of what prompted some of these images, and to see how those images have changed over the years. For example, the hero saving the girl are rampant in jungle books, sword and sorcery, etc, but not so much in superhero books. And in modern books, it's almost disappeared all together. As I build a collection of my favorite covers and stories, I'd like to see if I can understand why this is the case.


* In the highest grade I can afford, of course.

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#5631087 - 04/26/12 04:40 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: G.A.tor]
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I was posting here when you were in diapers.


Registered: 02/21/12
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I have tons of sets for sale (cheap) \:o


If you were in Italy I’d buy one pronto (I remember dreaming about them when they came out, since in the early 1990s I had never saw a golden age book before).
They are just too expensive to ship, and being hardcover they might also get damaged (again: unless you spend a fortune in shipping, which I try to save for comics). \:\(

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#5631100 - 04/26/12 04:47 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: vaillant]
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I was posting here when you were in diapers.


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@Reno: It’s a very nice line of research. I did a similar thing years ago with Snow White stories produced since the first Disney adaptation (we have a long tradition with our renowned italian Disney artist's school, dating back as early as the 1930s).
This led me to discover that the fairy tale theme has become largely despised since the 1980s.

My personal search is focusing on super-hero, or originally themed books which reflect in some way the specific "zeitgeist" of World War Two (so far I have concentrated on italian and US productions only, but I'd love to know if there are interesting examples in the french-belgian books of the era).

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#5631111 - 04/26/12 04:51 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: vaillant]
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I was posting here when you were in diapers.


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These two threads for locating sellers online:

List of GA dealers online (started by Norrin Radd):
http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=976932

Dealer Rankings 2011 (started by Foolkiller):
http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4966687

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#5631139 - 04/26/12 05:03 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: vaillant]
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 Originally Posted By: vaillant
My personal search is focusing on super-hero, or originally themed books which reflect in some way the specific "zeitgeist" of World War Two (so far I have concentrated on italian and US productions only, but I'd love to know if there are interesting examples in the french-belgian books of the era).


There is this one French book that captures that perfectly: La bete est morte -

I had more images but recently deleted them from my Photobucket. I can repost them if any interest.






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#5631142 - 04/26/12 05:06 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: Reno McCoy]
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 Originally Posted By: Reno McCoy
I'm typically pretty guarded with my collecting goals, but I'll tell ya, my goals (for all comic eras) right now are focused (almost) entirely on books that feature a damsel in distress on the cover with the hero attempting to save her.* I'm fascinated with heroes saving or protecting the damsels. Heck, I'd go so far as to say I'm more impressed with those covers that the hero is apparently powerless to save her, or those in which the damsel has apparently caused the hero to get in danger himself.

I know there are tons of books out there that have this theme, but I've always liked that about comics and adventure novels.

Great theme... You'll have fun. \(thumbs u Welcome!
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#5631182 - 04/26/12 05:24 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: Point Five]
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The first 70 or so issues of Comic Book Marketplace. Also, The Digital Comic Museum to read the comics themselves (tons of great books available).
Have fun.

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#5631226 - 04/26/12 05:40 PM Re: Where to learn about GA? [Re: damonwad]
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Once you decide what you like the best, back issues of Alter Ego are priceless. I notice some of your first purchases were Fiction House. They fit your damsel theme to a "T"....and they're still VERY affordable even in Fine condition. http://www.metropoliscomics.com has a pile of them.....as do others....but with Metro you can have 'em shipped right to your door. There's also a thread here devoted entirely to Fiction House. GOD BLESS...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) \(thumbs u



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