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Originally Posted By: wolf_2099
If you want to submit under your account, then are effectively doing the work for free. I see nothing wrong with a handling fee to recoup the costs.
If you buy an autograph ticket for $50, wouldn't the handling fee be built into that? It isn't like the autograph is free and they are recouping the costs through the submission, that would make sense. But when you charge for the right to get the autograph, and then charge again to submit that book for SS, that is the question here.
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DWC makes money based off their cost to submit a book versus what they charge their customers. Iirc all CGC member/dealers get a 10% (maybe more) discount on books submitted. That seems to be the drivi force behind DWC not wanting any book subbed on another members account. Because, as I said, every book subbed by them nets them money.
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It would really be funny if later on we find out that Stan wasn't getting a dime from all his appearances and signatures, and he was actually doing all those for the love of the fans.
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Originally Posted By: B767293
It would really be funny if later on we find out that Stan wasn't getting a dime from all his appearances and signatures, and he was actually doing all those for the love of the fans.
Well, i believe that isnt true at all about Stan giving a rats rear end. But it still wouldnt be funny to find out that DWC was fleecing people and using Stan as the patsy.
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Originally Posted By: arexcrooke
Originally Posted By: B767293
It would really be funny if later on we find out that Stan wasn't getting a dime from all his appearances and signatures, and he was actually doing all those for the love of the fans.
Well, i believe that isnt true at all about Stan giving a rats rear end. But it still wouldnt be funny to find out that DWC was fleecing people and using Stan as the patsy.
Even funnier if we find out that Stan has no concept of the value of money nowadays. He is 119 years old. And he thought signing comics was just like how it was back in the 1800s.
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I Really don't like being involved in this but the facts are the facts and I have to clear a few things up. 1st off my first name is Keegan, not my last.
1) When I called Desert Wind in July I did not give my name when I spoke to Chandler. I said I was a Baltimore area store owner and was interested in purchasing 100-200 tickets for my customers. He said all books must be submitted to CGC through him. I said that would not work as my customers don't trust anybody but me to handle the books and was there a way I could pay an upcharge to submit under my account. Chandler said no and then he flat out said he would not sell me those tickets. At no time during the conversation did I give my name or store name. So this still leads to the question of how he knew to call me and got my number. I will concede that it is possible that he had some brillant foresight to take my number from the caller ID and call me just before the show.
This was my assessment as a possibility. Prior to joining the army I worked in inside and outside sales in the semiconductor industry. I would have definitely saved the contact information and done a follow-up with someone who had a high volume inquiry.
Originally Posted By: Comicstoastonish
2) I got a call less than 10 minutes after Chandler called me from Stan's People and was told the Stan Lee Private signing was off due to what they had heard about me from DWC. They were told I was not able to properly handle books, I was unalbe to provide them with CGC invoice numbers and DWC had a "special way of keeping of Stan Lee Sig Books" I was able to respond to those false statements and prove them inacurate and got the signing done. Some were obvious since CGC codes all of their books and can all be tracked. I explained this to Stan's people amoung other things. This caused several days of concern for me until the singing got done and it had to be moved to DC. Which I had no problem with since it was Stan's time.
Wow! This rates about a 10 on the dikcish business practices scale.
[quote=Comicstoastonish] I Really don't like being involved in this but the facts are the facts and I have to clear a few things up. 1st off my first name is Keegan, not my last.
1) When I called Desert Wind in July I did not give my name when I spoke to Chandler. I said I was a Baltimore area store owner and was interested in purchasing 100-200 tickets for my customers. He said all books must be submitted to CGC through him. I said that would not work as my customers don't trust anybody but me to handle the books and was there a way I could pay an upcharge to submit under my account. Chandler said no and then he flat out said he would not sell me those tickets. At no time during the conversation did I give my name or store name. So this still leads to the question of how he knew to call me and got my number. I will concede that it is possible that he had some brillant foresight to take my number from the caller ID and call me just before the show.
This was my assessment as a possibility. Prior to joining the army I worked in inside and outside sales in the semiconductor industry. I would have definitely saved the contact information and done a follow-up with someone who had a high volume inquiry.
Agreed that is why I give him credit for some foresight. He might be a good business man who saved my number and once you have that you can get a name.
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Originally Posted By: lscomics
Originally Posted By: mschmidt
Originally Posted By: lscomics
If people don't want to sub their books through DWC for whatever reason all they have to do is wait for one of the other signings Stan is doing.
Which public signings would those be?
Did I say public? No. NYcomics has their Master 5 signing coming up. That's what I was referring to.
So if people don't want to sub through DWC (or pay the DWC kick-back when submitting under their own account), all they have to do is wait for another private signing to be announced - gotcha.
Yeah, I don't see how that could ever be construed as a way to "restrict or impede" other CGC facilitators from obtaining a Stan Lee signature
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