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#5618308 - 04/21/12 10:40 PM E(p) to M(p), is that normal?
johnnyhedge johnnyhedge Hobbyist Registered: 01/07/09 Posts: 44 Loc: Sunny SoCal	This book sold on Ebay a few years ago: The same book (see white spot in upper left) was resold on heritage last year: Is it normal, on a re-grade, for a book's restoration status to be adjusted? Judging by the notes on the original label ("heavy color touch" and "spine re-built") I assume this was an early grade by CGC. I know that early Universal grades are often upgraded, but this seems extreme. Anyone with more experience care to comment?
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#5618490 - 04/21/12 11:54 PM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: johnnyhedge]
spiderphill spiderphill Chatzilla Registered: 01/21/11 Posts: 2257 Loc: USA	I think spine rebuilds are now reinforced and heavy CT is just CT unless its minor. Minor = small amount of CT. I'd consider that book moderate not extensive.
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#5618520 - 04/22/12 12:07 AM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: spiderphill]
johnnyhedge johnnyhedge Hobbyist Registered: 01/07/09 Posts: 44 Loc: Sunny SoCal	That's good to know, thanks $\(thumbs u$
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#5618582 - 04/22/12 12:33 AM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: johnnyhedge]
spiderphill spiderphill Chatzilla Registered: 01/21/11 Posts: 2257 Loc: USA	Especially if all the pieces added are just to the spine and if the spine is CTd. It's a gorgeous book.
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#5618827 - 04/22/12 02:16 AM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: spiderphill]
Shellhead Shellhead I always forget who hates who around here...and why. TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 05/28/11 Posts: 10721 Loc: The Sloe Gin Wars of 3042.	It also went from "Light Tan Pages" to "Cream to Off-White Pages." _________________________
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#5618947 - 04/22/12 05:33 AM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: Shellhead]
Mr. 10% Mr. 10% Bid more or post more... tough one... Registered: 11/21/09 Posts: 930	Cf. the new resto grading system proposed by classics inc. on their website. Worth looking into imho. It is a known case that many a moderate book has been shuffed into the Ext category. Ext is an extremely broad category according to Matt Nelson. On the other hand Mod is a quite narrow category. Not much wiggle room between sligth & Ext. As a consequence expect a cgc modification to move regraded Ext books into Mod territory $\(thumbs u$
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#5621997 - 04/23/12 11:06 AM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: Mr. 10%]
cd4ever cd4ever This has been an educational post with no harm or ill will intented towards anyone & may I remind the mods I have been on these boards for nearly 10 years with nary a strike & only one warning & that was years & years ago. So please don't ban me. TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 03/27/02 Posts: 14696 Loc: Somewhere in middle America	I would imagine the difference between Moderate and Extensive is subjective in the same way the difference between White and Off-White to White pages is subjective (as is the grade now that I think about it). So the same book on a resub could very easily receive different opinions. I guess.
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#5622808 - 04/23/12 05:02 PM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: cd4ever]
divad divad TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 01/08/04 Posts: 31603 Loc: bolinas lagoon	Originally Posted By: cd4ever I would imagine the difference between Moderate and Extensive is subjective in the same way the difference between White and Off-White to White pages is subjective (as is the grade now that I think about it). So the same book on a resub could very easily receive different opinions. I guess. What he said . . . I guess _________________________
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#5637613 - 04/29/12 08:34 AM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: divad]
Mr. 10% Mr. 10% Bid more or post more... tough one... Registered: 11/21/09 Posts: 930	225 viewed this. A mere 6 replied. The boardies (i.e. dealers) on here are obviously reluctant to discuss this issue ( Which tells me there are perhaps $$$$$$ to be made on this)
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#5640727 - 04/30/12 01:58 PM Re: E(p) to M(p), is that normal? [Re: Mr. 10%]
FFB FFB At long last I feel regular. TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 02/03/04 Posts: 20618	Originally Posted By: Mr. 10% 225 viewed this. A mere 6 replied. The boardies (i.e. dealers) on here are obviously reluctant to discuss this issue ( Which tells me there are perhaps $$$$$$ to be made on this) The more obvious likelihood is that people are interested in how it happened but don't have any light to shed on the subject. This is hardly a widespread occurrence.
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