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#5609906 - 04/18/12 01:13 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: MJ]
dimefreak Offline
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 Originally Posted By: MJ
 Originally Posted By: winstonware
PCGS forum members always come over here when they don’t care for something that was written in a thread. Who’s “crypto?”


He's one of the most established authorities on Trade Dollars on the planet. He also is a no nonsense kind of guy and pulls no punches. He is like that on the PCGS boards as well. He has a decent post count here but that must have been from back in the day. He hit a nerve with his comments but there were germs of truth in his posts if anyone really cares to do some self reflection and read his words carefully in context. John is top shelf.

MJ


I respect your opinion, but disagree fully. I dont really care who you are. Nobody has the right to call our host 2nd tier, this forum 2nd tier, and the collectors that enjoy the hobby here 2nd tier.

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#5609908 - 04/18/12 01:14 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: mkman123]
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 Originally Posted By: mkman123
I'm happy to own a 2nd tier slab, post on a 2nd tier forum and have a 2nd tier collectin. \:\) \:\)


\^\^

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#5609939 - 04/18/12 01:27 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: dimefreak]
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 Originally Posted By: dimefreak
 Originally Posted By: MJ
 Originally Posted By: winstonware
PCGS forum members always come over here when they don’t care for something that was written in a thread. Who’s “crypto?”


He's one of the most established authorities on Trade Dollars on the planet. He also is a no nonsense kind of guy and pulls no punches. He is like that on the PCGS boards as well. He has a decent post count here but that must have been from back in the day. He hit a nerve with his comments but there were germs of truth in his posts if anyone really cares to do some self reflection and read his words carefully in context. John is top shelf.

MJ


I respect your opinion, but disagree fully. I dont really care who you are. Nobody has the right to call our host 2nd tier, this forum 2nd tier, and the collectors that enjoy the hobby here 2nd tier.
I don't disagree with your sentiment. No one likes to be insulted. But I think everyone's entitled to voice his opinion and crypto had every right.

IMO it was inflammatory and served no purpose. An unfortunate mistake in judgment.

Disagree, if you will, but defend his right to say it.
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#5609975 - 04/18/12 01:39 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: keigwin]
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At this point, I feel I should interject something of little importance in the midst of this very educational Q&A.

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Dang! That's the last time I'll excuse myself to go to the bathroom. I came back only to find that I missed all the fireworks.

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#5610008 - 04/18/12 01:55 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: cpm9ball]
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Talkative?


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I am not involved with what triggered this thread, nor do I want to be, except for the call to civility which is everyone's business and responsibility. However, that aside if a person desires to spew out insinuations, insults, and hate, the first amendment gives them that right. Of course that's within certain decorum established by the web host and enforced by the moderators. What it all boils down to though is that while everyone has a right to free speech, no one has a right to be heard, that is unless we cede it to the one throwing the insults.
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#5610044 - 04/18/12 02:11 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: jerseycat10]
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The Post-man always rings twice. Uhm... ring ring?


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 Originally Posted By: jerseycat10


I know this is stirring the pot a little, but if you were looking for a perfect time to post that kool-aid image with the PCGS logo, the thread that was started ATS to bring them here would be the perfect place.

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#5610059 - 04/18/12 02:17 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: gherrmann44]
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I'm glad the thread is gone but in the thread ATS some say they don't come over here because they find it is typical behavior of the NGC message board. I find that "LOL" funny. There is NO comparison. I've been on both boards for about 10 years and the PCGS board is FAR worse...hell...it's not even close. For the simple reason there are more members. The "one bad apple" theory applies. The more people the more of a chance threads spiral into oblivion. The PCGS board wins that hands down. Even some PMs I've received over there are rude.

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#5610075 - 04/18/12 02:23 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: jom]
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Some perspective...

This kind of stuff happens all day, every day on the Comics and General Discussion areas of this very board.

The Coin side is a peaceful haven compared to the other sections. It's night and day different.

Just something to keep in mind.
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#5610084 - 04/18/12 02:27 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: cpm9ball]
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 Originally Posted By: cpm9ball
Dang! That's the last time I'll excuse myself to go to the bathroom. I came back only to find that I missed all the fireworks.

Chris

Yea me too Chris! lol

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#5610088 - 04/18/12 02:29 PM Re: When did this forum turn into a fight club? [Re: jom]
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The Post-man always rings twice. Uhm... ring ring?


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 Originally Posted By: jom
I'm glad the thread is gone but in the thread ATS some say they don't come over here because they find it is typical behavior of the NGC message board. I find that "LOL" funny. There is NO comparison. I've been on both boards for about 10 years and the PCGS board is FAR worse...hell...it's not even close. For the simple reason there are more members. The "one bad apple" theory applies. The more people the more of a chance threads spiral into oblivion. The PCGS board wins that hands down. Even some PMs I've received over there are rude.

jom


I posted in that thread yesterday before I went to the casino. When I came back to the forum today, it was poofed. I have no idea what happened but I can imagine why it would turn ugly.

I have only been a member ATS for a few years because I refused to sign up for the longest time because I can't understand the format of that forum. Funny thing is that the members ATS are complaining about the format over here in the thread ATS.

Your post has sparked a thought in my mind. It occurs to me that when members ATS get out of line and get banned, many of them end up as members over here. Yet if this forum inherits all of the problem children, why does this forum remain "sleepy hollow"?

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