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#5603195 - 04/15/12 07:35 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: lscomics]
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 Originally Posted By: lscomics
Great article.

I'm a Signature Series collector myself, I just got into foreign variants in the last year or so. The reason being, I want to build a collection of comics that no one else can duplicate. There are so many collections out there that contain books like Hulk 181, Spidey 121 & 122 / 12 etc. even SS copies. I've taken it a step further by narrowing my focus to mainly SS foreign editions. I won't be able to get them all done due to cash flow but here's a few I've got so far.





Sorry about the large pics, I don't currently have those two uploaded to photobucket.

I've got a bunch more raw foreign stuff that I'll post pics of when I get a chance.


Nice! Yea one of the big draws of collecting foreigns is just what you stated. A large collection with foreigns would be very difficult to reprduce maybe even impossible depending on how rare some of the books you have are? And that isnt even talking about the sigs.... hm
Great books!


Edited by Define999 (04/15/12 07:36 PM)
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#5603200 - 04/15/12 07:39 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: Barbarian]
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 Originally Posted By: Barbarian
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Let's say you are told you have a gift coming.... You as a Italian collector are sat down and put in front of you are two comics.....one is a Spiderman 129 in cgc 9.6 the other is the Italian equivilant the L' uomo ragno 149/1976 in cgc 9.6

You can only have one? Which one do you take?


I´d take the CGC 9.6 ASM 129 and sell it for a ridiculous amount of money.

Then I would take that money to travel through Italy for a couple of months, drink wine, eat pizza and learn Italian from my new super hot Italian girlfriend.

I would then proceed in buying the Italian CGC 9.6 L´uomo Ragno 149, crack it open and then read it \(thumbs u


This sounds fun Barbarian! Could this pay for a plane ticket so I could join ya?
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#5603204 - 04/15/12 07:40 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: Chespirito]
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 Originally Posted By: Chespirito
 Originally Posted By: chromium
Very nice and informative ! But it's "1st appearance of the Punisher" not "apearance" \(thumbs u


Tomato...tomatoe....

I just like how books look next to each other.....




NOTE: Saved images, not all my books


Who can argue the beauty of all of these lined up together like a family! Great job Ches! \(thumbs u
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#5603220 - 04/15/12 07:49 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: Define999]
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 Originally Posted By: Define999
 Originally Posted By: Barbarian
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Let's say you are told you have a gift coming.... You as a Italian collector are sat down and put in front of you are two comics.....one is a Spiderman 129 in cgc 9.6 the other is the Italian equivilant the L' uomo ragno 149/1976 in cgc 9.6

You can only have one? Which one do you take?


I´d take the CGC 9.6 ASM 129 and sell it for a ridiculous amount of money.

Then I would take that money to travel through Italy for a couple of months, drink wine, eat pizza and learn Italian from my new super hot Italian girlfriend.

I would then proceed in buying the Italian CGC 9.6 L´uomo Ragno 149, crack it open and then read it \(thumbs u


This sounds fun Barbarian! Could this pay for a plane ticket so I could join ya?


Too many hypothetical’s in this story:

1 - That someone would give me a CGC 9.6 ASM 129 as a present
2- That I would score a super hot Italian girlfriend
3- That your wife would let you go to Italy

lol

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#5603224 - 04/15/12 07:50 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: vaillant]
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 Originally Posted By: vaillant
Addenda: Having read selected passages, I have to make some observations.

The first comes regarding the fact of certain foreign readers preferring the original edition. I think the comparision between the original US versions and the UK editions may be pretty misleading. The reason for this is the language. Besides the different shades of American English and British (or Australian) english, we are speaking of the same language, and to me it seems natural that the US original is preferred over a UK edition, which in many cases can be simply seen as a slightly different reprint, even if the UK edition had a considerably lower print run.



This makes sense but if there is a foreign variant that you could argue not being called a reprint its these... they were according to what I have read printed the very same day and the printers just swaped out the black plates with the UK pricing and then went on to print these Uk editions in much smaller quantaties... Your logic makes sense to me though....

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Choosing a local edition in another language is an entirely different matter.
Of course, I can speak for Italy only, but Italy is an interesting case.
I assure you the majority (I would say a good 90-95%, to feel safe) of italian readers collectors have developed an interest in the original editions only because the publisher which used to print Marvel went out of business (around 1982-83). We had to wait up to 1987-90 (excluding isolated exceptions, and attempts) to have once again a publisher (or more) consistently translating Marvel titles.
It appears the interest for original editions was mostly motivated by the absence of italian translations, and this was the case for many readers, which stopped buying originals as the local editions restarted on a continued basis.
But there was a part of readers (me included) which may represent a pretty smaller percentage, which became so fascinated with the original editions by getting to see and know them, that decided to privilege the originals.

This, in my opinion, which is also corroborated by documented facts, since I have lived the phenomenon between 1983 and now, has little to do with the Internet.
Of course, the Internet made possible a kind and a scope of collecting which was unthinkable before, but speaking of Italy the two points you have made up (the Internet influence and English literateness supported by educational systems abroad) are not so consistent. We are not – generally speaking – an "English literate" population. Up to the 1960s-1970s, French and German were often preferred over English to be taught in school.
I was speaking the other day with a priest (born in 1924) and from what I get, people of that generation, even people which studied, used to learn French (besides Latin and Greek) at their best (German was out of the question, since our alliance with nazi Germany was problematic to say the least).
My generation (born 1969) became more accustomed to English, thanks also to professional or hobby-related issues (informatics and music come to mind), but in general I would say the majority of readers in Italy prefer collecting italian translated editions.

Younger people (teenagers up to people in their mid-20s) prefer japanese comics (feeling probably some specific affinity due to many factors), but the more limited audience of younger readers and collectors go always for the italian translated editions.

These are my considerations, for now. \:\)


Interesting... hm So your saying the average Italian collector would prefer the Italian edition. Thats def different and hadn't heard that before with some other countries..... What a wonderful local angle, thanks! Maybe I need to figure out a way to write it so its not so definitive, somthing like "in many cases" or "in some countries".... thanks again! \(thumbs u


Edited by Define999 (04/15/12 08:03 PM)
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#5603232 - 04/15/12 07:54 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: Barbarian]
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 Originally Posted By: Barbarian
 Originally Posted By: Define999
 Originally Posted By: Barbarian
 Quote:
Let's say you are told you have a gift coming.... You as a Italian collector are sat down and put in front of you are two comics.....one is a Spiderman 129 in cgc 9.6 the other is the Italian equivilant the L' uomo ragno 149/1976 in cgc 9.6

You can only have one? Which one do you take?


I´d take the CGC 9.6 ASM 129 and sell it for a ridiculous amount of money.

Then I would take that money to travel through Italy for a couple of months, drink wine, eat pizza and learn Italian from my new super hot Italian girlfriend.

I would then proceed in buying the Italian CGC 9.6 L´uomo Ragno 149, crack it open and then read it \(thumbs u


This sounds fun Barbarian! Could this pay for a plane ticket so I could join ya?


Too many hypothetical’s in this story:

1 - That someone would give me a CGC 9.6 ASM 129 as a present
2- That I would score a super hot Italian girlfriend
3- That your wife would let you go to Italy

lol


Your probably right dude..... we have this Fiat comercial running in America right now with the hottest Italian gal! Oh my, it seems they have some hotties over there in Italy

My wife wouldn't....
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#5603246 - 04/15/12 08:02 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: Define999]
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Also speaking of my wife I must mention we had a trajedy very close to my family happen and my wife isn't sleeping and is pretty torn up about it and out of commision. I am doing my best to keep my family running smoothly but I am not doing so well.... My son has fallen out of his crib and hit his head, my daughter is super pissed cuz of some tweenager thing, and I just sent my wife to bed to get some rest for lack of sleep. I am having a hard time finding time to use the restroom much less get on the internet. Please do not take my sluggishness to respond to you guys as me being dismissive or negative.... I just cant keep up! Thanks for understanding! Please keep the thread going even without me at times! \(thumbs u
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#5603251 - 04/15/12 08:05 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: vaillant]
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 Originally Posted By: vaillant
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Man, you are a pit of knowledge \(worship\) \(worship\)


LOL, Matteo, this sounds funny said by a fellow italian… \:\)
BTW, you know surely a lot more than me about the current comics market.


I agree, you know your stuff! \(worship\)
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#5603252 - 04/15/12 08:06 PM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: Chespirito]
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 Originally Posted By: Chespirito
 Originally Posted By: Barbarian
 Originally Posted By: Chespirito

I just like how books look next to each other.....


Here´s 1 not on that list. Found out about it recently


I had a feeling somebody would do that ... lol
I could only pick from 16 blocks or 25 blocks on photobucket; I left one out, but it wasn't the one you posted...Nice!!!


I hadnt seen this one? Sweet find.....
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#5603829 - 04/16/12 03:22 AM Re: Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus [Re: Define999]
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Great article

Thanks for sharing!

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