Which one is that? To get CGC to stop giving blatantly false estimates for their turnaround times. Not everyone is on the boards and knows that the stated TAT is a joke.
As for the USPS analogy, they're quoting an estimated delivery time for all their packages at a certain shipping tier. Some get there quicker, some slower.
CGC's problem is that ALL the Value, Economy and Modern books are LATE. Not some, ALL. That's why there's a difference.
Either take down the estimates which are so inaccurate as to be purposefully misleading, or correct them. That's all I'm asking.
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Originally Posted By: VintageComics
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No. It's a non-sensical analogy.
So is your addiction to inane crusades.
Which one is that? To get CGC to stop giving blatantly false estimates for their turnaround times. Not everyone is on the boards and knows that the stated TAT is a joke.
As for the USPS analogy, they're quoting an estimated delivery time for all their packages at a certain shipping tier. Some get there quicker, some slower.
CGC's problem is that ALL the Value, Economy and Modern books are LATE. Not some, ALL. That's why there's a difference.
Either take down the estimates which are so inaccurate as to be purposefully misleading, or correct them. That's all I'm asking.
Basically the economies and value tiers are what are very slow right now, and moderns about double the normal 20 business days.
100 days wait for economy and value 45 days for modern
While I am not surprised Express, Standard, walkthrough, and all fast tracks services are on time.
they must have heard the masses cry out. hooray! and the truth shall set you free...
It really blows me away that you guys couldn't do the math in your head and comprehend how far behind they were
"WAAH WAAAH WAAHHH! MY BOOKS ARE LATE!" "It tells you on the website that they are late." "WAAH WAAH WAAHH! BUT IT SAYS 20 BUSINESS DAYS!" "It tells you on the website that they are late." "WAAAH WAAAH WAAHH! BUT IT SAYS 20 BUSINESS DAYS!" Lather, rinse, repeat.
Looking at this tier pricing structure, is this why CGC's business is not where it is supposed to be??
There is a near six-fold difference in price for Moderns vs. Express (9 - 120 fold difference vs. Walk Thru). Is there much difference in the time/resources grading a Modern vs. Express/Walk Thru comic.
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Originally Posted By: Spiderman-on-Tilt
Originally Posted By: Transplant
Originally Posted By: VintageComics
Originally Posted By: Transplant
No. It's a non-sensical analogy.
So is your addiction to inane crusades.
Which one is that? To get CGC to stop giving blatantly false estimates for their turnaround times. Not everyone is on the boards and knows that the stated TAT is a joke.
As for the USPS analogy, they're quoting an estimated delivery time for all their packages at a certain shipping tier. Some get there quicker, some slower.
CGC's problem is that ALL the Value, Economy and Modern books are LATE. Not some, ALL. That's why there's a difference.
Either take down the estimates which are so inaccurate as to be purposefully misleading, or correct them. That's all I'm asking.
Basically the economies and value tiers are what are very slow right now, and moderns about double the normal 20 business days.
100 days wait for economy and value 45 days for modern
While I am not surprised Express, Standard, walkthrough, and all fast tracks services are on time.
At the risk of sounding ungrateful, this is just plain dumb. Why would you continue to provide an estimated TAT under the way they have it on that page? My issue was with the ridiculous estimated TAT. Nothing has changed there.
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At the risk of sounding ungrateful, this is just plain dumb. Why would you continue to provide an estimated TAT under the way they have it on that page? My issue was with the ridiculous estimated TAT. Nothing has changed there.
Because it shows people that the "Fast Track" tires are on time. That's smart business that encourages people to use the more expensive tiers for a quicker turn around.
My "inane" comment was directly related to your displeasure at their use of the word estimated in relation to their times, just like the USPS estimated a delivery time and is completely off on them.
It's just an estimated time. A better choice of descriptive words might be to use the words "Attempted ETC" to show what the goal is, but estimate just about covers it while making them look a little less apologetic about it.
In the end, maybe all it is supposed to do is encourage people to use the more expensive tiers to grade the same books.
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Originally Posted By: VintageComics
Originally Posted By: Transplant
At the risk of sounding ungrateful, this is just plain dumb. Why would you continue to provide an estimated TAT under the way they have it on that page? My issue was with the ridiculous estimated TAT. Nothing has changed there.
Because it shows people that the "Fast Track" tires are on time. That's smart business that encourages people to use the more expensive tiers for a quicker turn around.
My "inane" comment was directly related to your displeasure at their use of the word estimated in relation to their times, just like the USPS estimated a delivery time and is completely off on them.
It's just an estimated time. A better choice of descriptive words might be to use the words "Attempted ETC" to show what the goal is, but estimate just about covers it while making them look a little less apologetic about it.
In the end, maybe all it is supposed to do is encourage people to use the more expensive tiers to grade the same books.
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Originally Posted By: Spiderman-on-Tilt
Originally Posted By: VintageComics
Originally Posted By: Transplant
At the risk of sounding ungrateful, this is just plain dumb. Why would you continue to provide an estimated TAT under the way they have it on that page? My issue was with the ridiculous estimated TAT. Nothing has changed there.
Because it shows people that the "Fast Track" tires are on time. That's smart business that encourages people to use the more expensive tiers for a quicker turn around.
My "inane" comment was directly related to your displeasure at their use of the word estimated in relation to their times, just like the USPS estimated a delivery time and is completely off on them.
It's just an estimated time. A better choice of descriptive words might be to use the words "Attempted ETC" to show what the goal is, but estimate just about covers it while making them look a little less apologetic about it.
In the end, maybe all it is supposed to do is encourage people to use the more expensive tiers to grade the same books.
While it makes perfect sense that they might try and drive business to the more expensive tiers by showing they are on time, it almost creates more questions than it answers. It could be very simply a capacity issue. Since I can recall, CGC has been said to have three primary graders. This is going back as long as 12 years or so.
If that's all the have, they have a very real capacity constraint. It would make total sense for them to organize their infLOws so that all the highest priced tiers get finished on schedule. Any time left over would then go to the value or modern tiers. How far they would let it go before it becomes a public relation disaster is unclear. At this point they don't seem to think that 100 days is a disaster.
I'm perplexed as toi why they would not expand capacity....
There are sure to be many that recal when they were advertising books to be shipped on time for ALL tiers or your money back. Seems as though high prices drive submissions.
If you can't stand the heat , get out of the kitchen I suppose. Frankly, it's often a dissapointment by the time the books come back anyway as you wonder what happend to all the 9.4's and 9.6's that were supposed to be in the box!!
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I'm not very happy about the time for my books being doubled, since the turn around times were still stating twenty business days when I submitted them. I really wanted those books back for a show, but if they're behind then they're behind and that's that.
