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#5601869 - 04/15/12 05:05 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: Povertyrow]
RockMyAmadeus RockMyAmadeus TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 05/04/05 Posts: 32521 Loc: 4815162342	Originally Posted By: Povertyrow Originally Posted By: RockMyAmadeus Originally Posted By: Bio-Rupp Hmmm the only way I would feel comfortable about 1 - 5 people being in charge of the probation list would be if they didn't buy and sell here. Too much power to give to too few of people. The greatest weakness of the PL...the ability for there to be a "Am not! Are too!" back and forth...is also its greatest strength...it's a completely democratic process. There is no way that a small group of people....even if it's only procedural power at this point...should have that kind of power. It doesn't matter who the people are. It wouldn't matter if it was ME, and you gave ME the sole power...I would reject it. It's a dangerous path to go down. Do you feel the same way about the unspeakable "power" that a few members have in the Virtual Comic Con hosted here? Or the awesome power of the Mods themselves? There is no "power" here. It is a purely administrative job. _________________________ Be a better person today than you were yesterday. Strive. Love someone who doesn't love you. We're far more likely to shoot each other in duels than we are to engage in some monolithic front determining the course of the board.
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#5601871 - 04/15/12 05:07 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: divad]
RockMyAmadeus RockMyAmadeus TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 05/04/05 Posts: 32521 Loc: 4815162342	Originally Posted By: divad Originally Posted By: skypinkblu Originally Posted By: Bio-Rupp Hmmm the only way I would feel comfortable about 1 - 5 people being in charge of the probation list would be if they didn't buy and sell here. Too much power to give to too few of people. They don't have the power to decide who goes on, just to update the list. Who goes on would still be decided the same way. Before you were here, Divad pretty much handled the entire shebang himself...and did an outstanding job. NO one took themselves on and off... Always the voice of reason $\(thumbs u$ _________________________ Be a better person today than you were yesterday. Strive. Love someone who doesn't love you. We're far more likely to shoot each other in duels than we are to engage in some monolithic front determining the course of the board.
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#5602827 - 04/15/12 04:07 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: RockMyAmadeus]
Povertyrow Povertyrow EXPECIALLY NEWBISH TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 09/14/02 Posts: 23372 Loc: Perv Toy Row, San Francisco, C...	Originally Posted By: RockMyAmadeus Originally Posted By: Povertyrow Originally Posted By: RockMyAmadeus Originally Posted By: Bio-Rupp Hmmm the only way I would feel comfortable about 1 - 5 people being in charge of the probation list would be if they didn't buy and sell here. Too much power to give to too few of people. The greatest weakness of the PL...the ability for there to be a "Am not! Are too!" back and forth...is also its greatest strength...it's a completely democratic process. There is no way that a small group of people....even if it's only procedural power at this point...should have that kind of power. It doesn't matter who the people are. It wouldn't matter if it was ME, and you gave ME the sole power...I would reject it. It's a dangerous path to go down. Do you feel the same way about the unspeakable "power" that a few members have in the Virtual Comic Con hosted here? Or the awesome power of the Mods themselves? There is no "power" here. It is a purely administrative job. _________________________ My newly updated pre-code horror checklist: Excel Spreadsheet http://www.mediafire.com/view/?bocj4c8r1i5xlnu Delimited Text File (for im portaing into other apps) http://www.mediafire.com/view/?fatq0qp54ltz1ba
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#5603677 - 04/15/12 11:46 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: divad]
followtheleader followtheleader Pedigreed Registered: 08/05/05 Posts: 6303 Loc: Colorado	Have people received their books from Joey21? Any contact? Pat _________________________ Never forgotten: Mosley - 8/26/11 (my sweet gentleman, I love you) Booj - 6/13/2008 John Graeff - 11/2003 Chris Anthony - 5/1/2006 Darrent Williams - 1/1/2007 Want to buy: Goon (raw 9.8): 5, 14 Buzzard cover, both 26s. Cry for Dawn (CGC 9.6/9.8 White) - 1, 5 (2nd Print), 7 & 8 Thor (CGC 8.5-9.2): 126, 144, & 162. Uncanny X-men (CGC 9.4, White): 111, 114, 129, & 134. Wolverine (1988 series) (raw 9.6-9.8): 28, 35, & 93. Bone (1st Print - Cartoon; raw 9.8): 25, 32, 34, 37, 38 (Miller cover), 40, 42, 44, 47, & 52 Sandman (Gaiman; raw 9.8): 2, 13, 18, 25, 28, 30, 31, 33, 34, 36, 37, 41, 49, 52, 57-59, & 62
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#5603768 - 04/16/12 01:20 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: followtheleader]
bababooey bababooey Chatzilla Registered: 08/04/10 Posts: 2363 Loc: Thread Praising!!!!	Originally Posted By: followtheleader Have people received their books from Joey21? Any contact? Pat If only there was some record of who these other buyers were and maybe even a means of communicating with them directly. _________________________
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#5604263 - 04/16/12 11:04 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: bababooey]
comix4fun comix4fun This is one of the rare times that having no friends works in my favor. TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 06/30/02 Posts: 23977 Loc: No Soup For You!	What part of "No Discussions" on the Probation List thread does Sagat NOT understand?! _________________________ Wanna Deal with me?? Here's what others have to say! *"That's my secret.....I'm always angry."* **"I wake up in the morning and I spoon* excellence. I am just a big, hairy, American, winning machine."***
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#5604281 - 04/16/12 11:11 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: comix4fun]
skypinkblu skypinkblu I'm just the coordinator. Just? TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 07/01/05 Posts: 15105 Loc: WESTCHESTER NY (like the X-Men...	Originally Posted By: comix4fun What part of "No Discussions" on the Probation List thread does Sagat NOT understand?! I dunno, I was thinking he's getting into Hall of Shame territory, but my main reason would be that he's being terminally annoying...and I guess that's not fair. Maybe we need a new list..."terminally annoying"? _________________________ skypinkblu's feedback My eBay listings
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#5604325 - 04/16/12 11:35 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: comix4fun]
sufunk sufunk It used to at least change but now its just stuck on TOTAL NEWBIE forever. TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 11/10/10 Posts: 11592 Loc: Davie, Florida	Originally Posted By: comix4fun What part of "No Discussions" on the Probation List thread does Sagat NOT understand?! He acts like he doesnt understand why or who put him on the list so what makes you think he'd understand where to post discussions??? _________________________ 134 Avengers Pedigrees down! Any Avengers Pedigrees for sale? Please PM me! Avengers Pedigree gallery
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#5604342 - 04/16/12 11:49 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: sufunk]
seanfingh seanfingh You earn it. It's like MMA for nerds. TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 05/15/05 Posts: 31111 Loc: Butthurt Has No Expiration Dat...	He has yet to plumb the depths of either his stupidity or his douchebaggery. Stand by for more. _________________________
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#5604543 - 04/16/12 01:23 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: seanfingh]
Branget Branget TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 08/25/09 Posts: 11864	Originally Posted By: SAGAT Originally Posted By: comix4fun Originally Posted By: SAGAT Originally Posted By: Shark Originally Posted By: SAGAT Originally Posted By: Jeffro Originally Posted By: SAGAT Originally Posted By: Jeffro Originally Posted By: SAGAT - Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with. That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum. If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list. You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it. Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day. So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way. If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution. My high school classmate under twistty bought a avengers 1 raw from me which was never cgc graded. 3years later I saw him in a gym where I play basketball and he started getting violent .He claimed the book was restored so I was threatened -I had no choice but to refund him $400 even though the book was never graded. I did not want to engage in violence-in fact I could have called police. So I thought that was end of it according to him as he thought we reached and agreed on a settlement (I was of the opinion I was threatened and robbed) -that should have been the end of it then there was trash talk about me from him on the boards the very next day etc I believe I was put on probe list for that transaction. I have always paid for everything I bought and always delivered when sold. I never deal in raw books again. Thats the whole story for re-assurance. So I am not to included in this probie list. So did he keep the book or was it returned to you when you gave him the $400? He kept book and sold it. At a $920 loss of which you only gave him $400 of. So he sold the book for zero dollars? I was told after the anger subsided that this was a form of settlement so we're square as agreed upon with a firm handshake. But this blew up even after. This is the truth. This is simply NOT the truth but typical Frank politics. _________________________ Andy70/Exwhyzee/Beige - " Canada - don't bother - too expensive, slow and uninsurable.So no Canadians thanks"
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