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#5601171 - 04/14/12 08:15 PM What Causes This Color Variation?
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This discussion in the "Silver Comics" section...

misprint in xmen 7 (LINK)

...reminded me of a front cover color variation I had seen with Iron Man #113.



See Below. The first pic is normal, followed by two color variations I've found. Notice the yellow areas at the very top of the cover.

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Does anyone know exactly how this variation occurs in the printing process?

Is this common or uncommon?

Is this considered a true variant?
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#5601529 - 04/14/12 10:32 PM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: Shellhead]
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Looks like glitches of missing ink in the magenta plate, such that the yellow that should be combining with magenta to form the red cover is showing through. No idea what the specific problem would be that would cause the different error variations though.

I wouldn't consider these variants, just curiosities. \(shrug\)
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#5601594 - 04/14/12 11:11 PM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: Point Five]
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Lots of items like this exist. Look at the "Variant Mafia" forum on

http://blogstl.stlcomics.com/

to see many and read comments by those who find them interesting.

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#5602168 - 04/15/12 11:06 AM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: Point Five]
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 Originally Posted By: Point Five
Looks like glitches of missing ink in the magenta plate, such that the yellow that should be combining with magenta to form the red cover is showing through. No idea what the specific problem would be that would cause the different error variations though.

I wouldn't consider these variants, just curiosities. \(shrug\)



Makes sense.

Weird that it's localized in two distinct areas at two separate times during the print run.

I wonder what the mechanism is that causes the loss of color.
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#5602192 - 04/15/12 11:19 AM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: jerome34]
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 Originally Posted By: jerome34
Lots of items like this exist. Look at the "Variant Mafia" forum on

http://blogstl.stlcomics.com/

to see many and read comments by those who find them interesting.


Thanks for the link!

I found the area where they describe this issue. Looks like I found the only two variations.

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I couldn't find any mention of cause, scarcity or value, but they are identified as "Color/Print Variants" (at least by the "Variant Mafia" \:\) ).

Cool stuff!
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#5602317 - 04/15/12 12:16 PM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: Shellhead]
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The Variant Mafia are just fellow collectors like yourself.

Metarog is a member of this board as well, and has done a tremendous job (along with the rest of the Variant Mafia) of doucmenting these types of variations.

There are several different books that have similar color defects such as this one. I have really seen no premiums above the normal price for these books.

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#5602521 - 04/15/12 01:52 PM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: Spider-Variant]
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 Originally Posted By: Spider-Variant
The Variant Mafia are just fellow collectors like yourself.

Metarog is a member of this board as well, and has done a tremendous job (along with the rest of the Variant Mafia) of doucmenting these types of variations.

There are several different books that have similar color defects such as this one. I have really seen no premiums above the normal price for these books.



I love that website. Kudos to Metarog and the rest of the group for compiling and documenting all this material. Good stuff!

I haven't seen premiums for these variants either, although I've never seen one specifically identified as such.

I actually think these color/print variants would make a great collection - regardless of the market price.
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#5602626 - 04/15/12 02:34 PM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: Shellhead]
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Thanks for the Kudos guys... I personally love these anomolies on covers and when I find them they are posted up in the STL Interactive gallery.

BTW, I read somewhere that errors such as the one on IM 113 might be caused by something getting on the plate such as a piece of paper or other junk so that a color never gets to the area.
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#5603007 - 04/15/12 05:37 PM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: metarog]
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 Originally Posted By: metarog
Thanks for the Kudos guys... I personally love these anomolies on covers and when I find them they are posted up in the STL Interactive gallery.

BTW, I read somewhere that errors such as the one on IM 113 might be caused by something getting on the plate such as a piece of paper or other junk so that a color never gets to the area.


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#5603012 - 04/15/12 05:39 PM Re: What Causes This Color Variation? [Re: metarog]
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 Originally Posted By: metarog
Thanks for the Kudos guys... I personally love these anomolies on covers and when I find them they are posted up in the STL Interactive gallery.

BTW, I read somewhere that errors such as the one on IM 113 might be caused by something getting on the plate such as a piece of paper or other junk so that a color never gets to the area.


Regarding the mechanism involved, my theory was along the lines of a plate etching error - in this case three plates being used (2 bad, 1 good) before the problem was fixed. I considered debri like a piece of paper, but the variant area seems too uniform and sharply defined above the banner. Also, I would think that debri would capture paint and print itself much like the unetched areas since it would be higher than the plate itself. \(shrug\)

Just a theory. I love a good mystery.
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