#5593211 - 04/11/1205:26 PMRe: Blue Line Pages?
[Re: Baron]
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for the Walking Dead cover, you'd have to check to see if it's an actual drawing done in blue underneath, or just printed out in blue on the board. My gut tells me that it's probably printed out on the board, not drawn. I don't see how that would make a big difference in terms of value...
So artists draw in blue marker and then ink over that. Some artists print out their drawings in blue and ink over that...
Lot's of different ways to produce art. It's in the best interest of the collector to educate themselves on an artist's technique before spending lot's of cash on the art...
I asked Mark Hay at splash page (great guy) for his opinion on blue lining generally, and what it means on the Walking Dead Adlard cover I previously posted. Here is his response:
"Hi Josh, Some covers and interiors that Charlie does involve photo reference so he uses a photograph as part of his layout for the page. He'll print elements of the background in light blue ink (bluelines) and print it out onto the comic art board. He then finishes drawing the remaining parts to the piece in pencil and inks the entire piece. The piece is 100% Charlie, but these days with technology, not everything is drawn/laid out by pencil/hand as it's alot easier to ink over a picture of a bell tower than it is to draw one completely from scratch.
Bluelines can also be referenced when an inker is taking another penciler's digital scan onto art board and then inking it. This type situation usually yields inks by one guy and a separate pencil original piece. This is not the case here, as Charlie pencils & inks himself. There is only one original piece of art, which is what you purchased. Let me know if you have any additional questions. Thanks Mark"
Example of the blue pencil preliminary cover art from Art Adams. Linework was pretty light that taking a photo didn't work getting the details and this is scanning the 11x17 piece and pasting them together.
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Thanks for all the enlightening information. I ask because I'm in the process of buying a piece of OA from a newer artist. The page I am interested in lists the Pencils done by Clay Mann, and Blue Line Inks done by Norman Lee. That's why I asked about the blue line's.
#5594837 - 04/12/1210:52 AMRe: Blue Line Pages?
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Barry Kitson does a lot of thumbnail layouts then blows them up in photoshop, moves stuff around and then print out. He will then ink these or send to inker.
EVS draws in blue pencil, so if you see anything inked by him, it's probably straight on board.
Not a whole lot of "ORIGINAL" art Per Se anymore. Still original in it's own way, but not old school.
Barry Kitson does a lot of thumbnail layouts then blows them up in photoshop, moves stuff around and then print out. He will then ink these or send to inker.
EVS draws in blue pencil, so if you see anything inked by him, it's probably straight on board.
Not a whole lot of "ORIGINAL" art Per Se anymore. Still original in it's own way, but not old school.
There's also the blue-line that's not really blue...
Mark Brooks does his pencils on the computer and then psychically inks his pages. But I think he prints it out black / grey.
Like Pirate said, not as common to see it done the old way anymore. There's a million ways to get the funny books made.
#5595101 - 04/12/1212:21 PMRe: Blue Line Pages?
[Re: JerseyComicBoy]
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Originally Posted By: JerseyComicBoy
Thanks for all the enlightening information. I ask because I'm in the process of buying a piece of OA from a newer artist. The page I am interested in lists the Pencils done by Clay Mann, and Blue Line Inks done by Norman Lee. That's why I asked about the blue line's.
I am going to buy page #19...I just wanted to make sure there wasn't an issue with the blue line ink's listing.
You really need to ask the artist I would think (or in this case Bob and Kim as his reps). I'm not familiar with how Clay and Norman work, but I'm sure if you ask they'll give you an answer on the art. It's not uncommon for pages to be split between the inker and penciller if they are all done one one piece and the whole blueline being printed in some cases and not in others, I would want a clear answer.
That said, I did lose out on a piece once waiting for an answer and then found out the artist would never sell his own pencils to it, so the blueline inks were all I could get...
