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#5591910 - 04/11/12 06:43 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: FFB]
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 Originally Posted By: FFB
 Originally Posted By: NamesJay
Unfortunately, we won't see these kind of record numbers anymore with the evolution of digital sales.



True, but the music also is not nearly as good now either. Is there a modern band in the world as good as the Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, or Pink Floyd? The closest I can think of is Pearl Jam in the past 20 years and even they are no Led Zeppelin.


Pearl Jam! Really? One good album as far as I'm concerned.
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#5591911 - 04/11/12 06:44 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: NamesJay]
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I think mine is coming up soon

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Unfortunately, we won't see these kind of record numbers anymore with the evolution of digital sales.



True, but the music also is not nearly as good now either. Is there a modern band in the world as good as the Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, or Pink Floyd? The closest I can think of is Pearl Jam in the past 20 years and even they are no Led Zeppelin.


I agree - music has progressively gotten worse. The last bands I really thought were unique and triggered an emotional response were Tool/A Perfect Circle.


That's closer. A much better group of musicians there. The Perfect Circle album is outstanding. Layers and layers of sound.
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#5591926 - 04/11/12 07:18 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: FFB]
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 Originally Posted By: FFB
 Originally Posted By: NamesJay
Unfortunately, we won't see these kind of record numbers anymore with the evolution of digital sales.



True, but the music also is not nearly as good now either. Is there a modern band in the world as good as the Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, or Pink Floyd? The closest I can think of is Pearl Jam in the past 20 years and even they are no Led Zeppelin.


I always thought that U2 was the strong current band
as well as Radiohead. They don't really compare to the greats
but who really does.

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#5592362 - 04/11/12 11:50 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: Tsimanga]
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 Originally Posted By: Tsimanga
Zep rocked but were very, very limited. The Beatles could have 10 albums in the top 100 of all time as far as I'm concerned. Hell. even their first album is better than Zep4.




Led Zeppelin didn't have as varied a palette as The Beatles but to say they were very limited is to sell them extremely short. They were excellent at folk, rockabilly, funk (Trampled Underfoot), acid rock and delta blues as well as their signature hard rock.
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#5593993 - 04/11/12 10:46 PM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: goldust40]
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Led Zeppelin were the best rockers ever, but there ability to plagiarize other peoples music is beyond compare. 2c
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#5594496 - 04/12/12 06:31 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: mystrymachine]
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 Originally Posted By: mystrymachine
Led Zeppelin were the best rockers ever, but there ability to plagiarize other peoples music is beyond compare. 2c


Indeed.
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#5594523 - 04/12/12 07:07 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: chrisco37]
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 Originally Posted By: chrisco37
 Originally Posted By: NamesJay
 Originally Posted By: FFB
 Originally Posted By: NamesJay
Unfortunately, we won't see these kind of record numbers anymore with the evolution of digital sales.



True, but the music also is not nearly as good now either. Is there a modern band in the world as good as the Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, or Pink Floyd? The closest I can think of is Pearl Jam in the past 20 years and even they are no Led Zeppelin.


I agree - music has progressively gotten worse. The last bands I really thought were unique and triggered an emotional response were Tool/A Perfect Circle.


That's closer. A much better group of musicians there. The Perfect Circle album is outstanding. Layers and layers of sound.


Great disc.

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#5594527 - 04/12/12 07:15 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: HiHoAudio]
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 Originally Posted By: HiHoAudio
 Originally Posted By: mystrymachine
Led Zeppelin were the best rockers ever, but there ability to plagiarize other peoples music is beyond compare. 2c


Indeed.
Two words. Bert Jansch.


That song (Black Mountain Side) was their most egregious example of plagiarism, no getting away from that (and Led Zep are my favorite band too, fwiw).

Ah well, at least it got me interested in Jansch's work.
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#5594787 - 04/12/12 10:35 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: FFB]
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 Originally Posted By: FFB
 Originally Posted By: NamesJay
Unfortunately, we won't see these kind of record numbers anymore with the evolution of digital sales.



True, but the music also is not nearly as good now either. Is there a modern band in the world as good as the Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, or Pink Floyd? The closest I can think of is Pearl Jam in the past 20 years and even they are no Led Zeppelin.

Nirvana. Burned brightly albeit briefly. I personally think Oasis` first 2 albums can hold their own with anybody.

For the 30-something generation, Coldplay and Radiohead seem to have particularly fanatical followings.

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#5594797 - 04/12/12 10:39 AM Re: March Madness Rock Albums - Led Zeppelin IV vs The Beatles Abbey Road [Re: Jeffro]
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 Originally Posted By: Jeffro
 Originally Posted By: chrisco37
 Originally Posted By: NamesJay
 Originally Posted By: FFB
 Originally Posted By: NamesJay
Unfortunately, we won't see these kind of record numbers anymore with the evolution of digital sales.



True, but the music also is not nearly as good now either. Is there a modern band in the world as good as the Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, or Pink Floyd? The closest I can think of is Pearl Jam in the past 20 years and even they are no Led Zeppelin.


I agree - music has progressively gotten worse. The last bands I really thought were unique and triggered an emotional response were Tool/A Perfect Circle.


That's closer. A much better group of musicians there. The Perfect Circle album is outstanding. Layers and layers of sound.


Great disc.



So strange how some tastes line up and others are just way off... I can't stand APC. Tool was amazing (but got too weird on the last record), but I think there's maybe 1 APC song that I like. I blame James Iha.

I think there are several modern bands that are just as good as those you listed. I don't think that the musicians at the top of their game (which, these days, rarely has anything to do with sales) are any worse in this era than in the past, but the overall quality may have gone down. While it's great that it's so easy for anyone to write, record, and distribute their own music it certainly brings down the average quality of music as whole.

As an aside, it also seems like people (myself included) often lament the passing of the album in favor of the single due to our abiltiy to now digitally cherry-pick off a record. But really, it seems like the album only had a few years when it really mattered. Prior to... what... the early 60's? It was all about the singles... at least that's how it seems to me looking back. Trying to find out which songs came from which records from back then is nowhere near as straightforward as it is these days. Seems like half of the songs we remember never existed on an album at all.
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