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#5588043 - 04/09/12 05:13 PM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: Lehigh96]
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TOTAL NEWBIE, makes no sense and seems very paradoxical and counter-intuitive.

Is it a very lame attempt at sarcastic humor??

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Nice restoration job!! That was like toxic waste!! lol
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#5588076 - 04/09/12 05:25 PM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: Walkerfan]
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I'm wiling to bet you bought the lot for the St. Louis Bicentennial?

Did I win?
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#5588312 - 04/09/12 07:17 PM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: Dcoin]
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You do wonderful work with acetone. Thanks for sharing James!!
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#5588961 - 04/09/12 10:53 PM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: nunfa0]
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even in 2x2 holders the PVC leached in?


I have seen some uncirculated sets in old Harco albums that had a green tinge on all the coins and you could tell that the set started nice, and now is such a mess I don't even bid.

Always a risk buying something that may not look as good as your results after hours of effort.

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#5588978 - 04/09/12 10:59 PM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: e1cnr]
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When PVC decomposes (and this is accelerated by heat), vinyl chloride monomers can vaporize and deposit elsewhere, so finding PVC inside 2x2s isn't very surprising. When vinyl chloride decomposes, hydrochloric acid is released, and this will etch coins.
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#5589243 - 04/10/12 01:54 AM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: Arizonadesertrat]
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wow james worst cases of pvc i have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you did a fantastic job of removing the pvc
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#5589327 - 04/10/12 05:45 AM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: e1cnr]
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 Originally Posted By: e1cnr
even in 2x2 holders the PVC leached in?

YES! That's why I think there is just no reason to mess around with PVC-anything.

This situation has taught me a lesson. Don't even bother with PVC vinyl pages, much less PVC flips. We have some auction companies who continue... even today... to put coins into "temporary" PVC holders. Why do they want to take that kind of risk?

It's such a serious problem that if someone wants to link this thread ATS, I won't mind at all. Get the word out. The crusade reminds me in some ways of the "coin doctor crusade", except that I would bet this vicious, insidious substance has ruined FAR more coins than coin doctors ever have.
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#5589556 - 04/10/12 09:52 AM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: Lehigh96]
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I bought a small collection a few years ago that included a 1964 French mint set. The coins were packaged in a PVC sleeve, and I was using acetone to get green goo off my hands after removing the coins.

Nice salvage job!
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#5589622 - 04/10/12 10:23 AM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: messydesk]
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Even the staples have moderate rust & rust migration, which we see a lot on the comic book side. PVC is really bad for comic books too.
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#5589886 - 04/10/12 12:34 PM Re: The worst level of PVC I've ever seen was on some coins I picked up this weekend [Re: Timely]
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Wolverine got to the 1835 quarter.....what a shame
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