#5595356 - 04/12/1201:46 PMRe: COLLECTOR AND PRICE VULTURES BEWARE-WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE
[Re: Mmehdy]
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Originally Posted By: Mmehdy
FMV is many many things...in the case of jerry's hair or the check that stole superman not much real value here excpet hype.....action 1.....in the words of " bellock" from raiders of the lost ark....this IS history....
action comics 1 is all hype too it happens to be the 1st app of a major chacter but there are what 10 mayby 15 copies out there........how meny copies of the check are out there
action 1 i don't know if i'd call it history......the check on the other hand is, it proved just how badly original creators got screwed over & if made out to them both has both sigs on it as well
imo the check is more important then action 1 in the grand sceam of things
the hair is creepy and in bad taste imo
just bc you don't think it's worth anything means nothing as i don't know you so your opinion on the matter means nothing.....grain of salt and all that
now bedrock and others while i may not know them personaly outside of saying at a con, there knoldge of the market and other things delaing with comics i would listen to, they have proven they know what their talking about
action comics 1 is all hype too it happens to be the 1st app of a major chacter but there are what 10 mayby 15 copies out there........how meny copies of the check are out there
You can't counter him using numbers that are so far off from reality yourself ...
the check on the other hand is, it proved just how badly original creators got screwed over
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#5595698 - 04/12/1203:50 PMRe: COLLECTOR AND PRICE VULTURES BEWARE-WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE
[Re: Bookery]
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Originally Posted By: Pulpguide
Originally Posted By: MrBedrock
Originally Posted By: Mmehdy
the BEDROCK of comic book collecting IS action comics # 1...Mr B.
Nope. The biggest book in the hobby is not Action 1. Amazing Fantasy 15 generates more total dollars than Action 1. Hulk 181 generates more total dollars than Action 1. I'm sure we can come up with a whole list of books that are more important than Action 1 in terms of dollars spent year to year. Action 1 is the most expensive. And it does define you. But it isn't the BEDROCK
In fact, Mitch, the rise of comics as a dollars-valued collectible pretty much parallels the rise of Marvel Comics. If Marvel hadn't revived the super-hero genre in the 1960s, which is also when back-issue comics began being sold at premiums, I suspect ol' Action #1 would be selling for a fraction of what it is today.
Superman kept super-heroes as a successful enterprise only for about a decade before sales began to precipitously decline, and super-heroes became one of the least popular comic book genres. Spider-Man and the FF revived the genre, dragging Superman and other heroes along with their success, which continues to this day, most particularly in films, video games, etc.
Good points. The comic book company that sold the most units from the late 1940's to the early 60's was DELL basically with non-superhero fare, such as funny animals. They only began to lose ground in 1961 when they misread the market and went to a 15¢ cover price when everyone else went cheaper. Add the super-hero revival led by Marvel and Dell's dominance was over.
#5595730 - 04/12/1203:57 PMRe: COLLECTOR AND PRICE VULTURES BEWARE-WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE
[Re: Bookery]
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Originally Posted By: Pulpguide
Originally Posted By: MrBedrock
Originally Posted By: Mmehdy
the BEDROCK of comic book collecting IS action comics # 1...Mr B.
Nope. The biggest book in the hobby is not Action 1. Amazing Fantasy 15 generates more total dollars than Action 1. Hulk 181 generates more total dollars than Action 1. I'm sure we can come up with a whole list of books that are more important than Action 1 in terms of dollars spent year to year. Action 1 is the most expensive. And it does define you. But it isn't the BEDROCK
In fact, Mitch, the rise of comics as a dollars-valued collectible pretty much parallels the rise of Marvel Comics. If Marvel hadn't revived the super-hero genre in the 1960s, which is also when back-issue comics began being sold at premiums, I suspect ol' Action #1 would be selling for a fraction of what it is today.
Superman kept super-heroes as a successful enterprise only for about a decade before sales began to precipitously decline, and super-heroes became one of the least popular comic book genres. Spider-Man and the FF revived the genre, dragging Superman and other heroes along with their success, which continues to this day, most particularly in films, video games, etc.
Very good point.
It can be argued that the most important comic book of them all is FF1, because without it superheroes were on a fast fade in the cultural landscape. Ever look at a DC book from 1961 and realize it was published about the same time as FF1, and how the DC books were so childish? Even long after Marvel's renaissance, DC continued publishing books with absurd fantasy stories and endless variations on the "betrayal by friend or family" theme (remember all those covers with the characters turning on each other? "Lois, why are you killing me?" "Because I hate you." etc)
Without FF1, would there be many billion dollar franchises? Would DC have ever gotten more serious with its films, which was essential to the greenlighting of a more serious batman in 1989? There might have been a brief moment in the sun with the 1977 Superman, but would we have seen an end to Superhero films when that franchise flamed out?
action comics 1 is all hype too it happens to be the 1st app of a major chacter but there are what 10 mayby 15 copies out there........how meny copies of the check are out there
at a con, there knoldge of the market and other things delaing with comics i would listen to, they have proven they know what their talking about
