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#5513289 - 03/10/12 06:02 PM Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond
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After having read the "Which SA Book After AF15?" thread in the General section, my interest was sparked regarding the current and future hierarchy of the Marvel Silver Age keys.

As a starting point, I looked up every Silver Age Marvel book in the guide to have a 9.2 value of $5K or higher. That left me with a list of 26 total books (unless I managed to overlook any). Below the 9.2 guide values are the CGC Census figures (updated as of 3/5/12).

Staring from the left: Universal - Qualified - Signature Series - Restored - (Total)


The Top-26 (9.2 value) according to the 2011-2012 Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide:

Amazing Fantasy #15
-$125,000
CGC Graded: 1,058 - 25 - 81 - 491 - (1,655)

Fantastic Four #1
-$80,000
CGC Graded: 723 - 6 - 60 - 328 - (1,117)

Incredible Hulk #1
-$75,000
CGC Graded: 538 - 13 - 41 - 213 - (805)

Amazing Spider-Man #1
-$54,000
CGC Graded: 1,418 - 21 - 94 - 443 - (1,976)

Journey Into Mystery #83
-$30,000
CGC Graded: 634 - 1 - 41 - 146 - (822)

X-Men #1
-$30,000
CGC Graded: 1,512 - 34 - 156 - 397 - (2,099)

Tales of Suspense #39
-$25,000
CGC Graded: 794 - 11 - 75 - 182 - (1,062)

Avengers #1
-$15,000
CGC Graded: 1,128 - 19 - 108 - 257 - (1,512)

Tales To Astonish #27
-$15,000
CGC Graded: 303 - 3 - 19 - 80 - (405)

Fantastic Four #5
-$14,000
CGC Graded: 494 - 6 - 28 - 84 - (612)

Amazing Spider-Man #2
-$11,000
CGC Graded: 756 - 18 - 21 - 153 - (948)

Fantastic Four #2
-$11,000
CGC Graded: 402 - 12 - 13 - 92 - (519)

Fantastic Four #4
-$10,000
CGC Graded: 425 - 21 - 13 - 78 - (537)

Fantastic Four #12
-$10,000
CGC Graded: 484 - 6 - 12 - 58 - (560)

Fantastic Four #3
-$9,200
CGC Graded: 370 - 12 - 14 - 54 - (450)

Amazing Spider-Man #3
-$9,000
CGC Graded: 732 - 40 - 27 - 145 - (944)

Daredevil #1
-$8,200
CGC Graded: 1,466 - 21 - 116 - 214 - (1,817)

Incredible Hulk #2
-$8,000
CGC Graded: 371 - 6 - 12 - 61 - (450)

Amazing Spider-Man #4
-$7,200
CGC Graded: 775 - 10 - 17 - 91 - (893)

Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos #1
-$6,000
CGC Graded: 244 - 8 - 15 - 24 - (291)

Amazing Spider-Man #5
-$5,800
CGC Graded: 807 - 9 - 25 - 98 - (939)

Journey Into Mystery #84
-$5,500
CGC Graded: 244 - 1 - 6 - 18 - (269)

Fantastic Four #6
-$5,300
CGC Graded: 399 - 5 - 9 - 45 - (458)

Avengers #4
-$5,200
CGC Graded: 1,236 - 16 - 138 - 236 - (1,626)

Incredible Hulk #3
-$5,000
CGC Graded: 320 - 4 - 6 - 44 - (374)

Tales To Astonish #35
-$5,000
CGC Graded: 260 - 6 - 12 - 28 - (306)


The Top-26 Ranked by CGC Census Figures (Most to Fewest):

2,099: X-Men #1
1,976: Amazing Spider-Man #1
1,817: Daredevil #1
1,655: Amazing Fantasy #15
1,626: Avengers #4
1,512: Avengers #1
1,117: Fantastic Four #1
1,062: Tales of Suspense #39
948: Amazing Spider-Man #2
944: Amazing Spider-Man #3
939: Amazing Spider-Man #5
893: Amazing Spider-Man #4
822: Journey Into Mystery #83
805: Incredible Hulk #1
612: Fantastic Four #5
560: Fantastic Four #12
537: Fantastic Four #4
519: Fantastic Four #2
458: Fantastic Four #6
450: Fantastic Four #3
450: Incredible Hulk #2
405: Tales To Astonish #27
374: Incredible Hulk #3
306: Tales To Astonish #35
291: Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos #1
269: Journey Into Mystery #84

This of course is just a starting point.

I'd like to be able to include a list of record-prices recorded for each book respectively, as it would be interesting to see how much has been invested into some of the top examples the market has to offer.

Perhaps after some discussion, we can start up a poll similar to the one done last year, only this time there will be no "Marvel vs. DC" debate.

This list is exclusively Marvel. \(thumbs u

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#5516130 - 03/11/12 08:33 PM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: Wayne-Tec]
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I like where you're going with this. Looks to be an outstanding project and could prove very insightful. \(thumbs u
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#5516554 - 03/11/12 11:17 PM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: Spyderfan]
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I agree. Good stuff.
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#5516720 - 03/12/12 12:19 AM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: Bill C]
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 Originally Posted By: Spyderfan
I like where you're going with this. Looks to be an outstanding project and could prove very insightful. \(thumbs u


 Originally Posted By: BillC
I agree. Good stuff.


Thanks guys. \(thumbs u

Now we just have to get more board members involved so that we can develop a good discussion. There are so many great books that the SA has to offer, so I find it incredibly interesting to investigate the nuances that make them unique unto themselves.

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#5516725 - 03/12/12 12:23 AM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: Wayne-Tec]
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 Originally Posted By: Wayne-Tec
 Originally Posted By: Spyderfan
I like where you're going with this. Looks to be an outstanding project and could prove very insightful. \(thumbs u


 Originally Posted By: BillC
I agree. Good stuff.


Thanks guys. \(thumbs u

Now we just have to get more board members involved so that we can develop a good discussion. There are so many great books that the SA has to offer, so I find it incredibly interesting to investigate the nuances that make them unique unto themselves.



Real cool list Bro! Great data!!!! Been looking at it alot! Real interesting to see a number of graded to see what issues have been graded more of..and what issues less!

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#5516844 - 03/12/12 01:15 AM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: *Bronze age fan*]
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 Originally Posted By: *Bronze age fan*
Real cool list Bro! Great data!!!! Been looking at it alot! Real interesting to see a number of graded to see what issues have been graded more of..and what issues less!


I appreciate it man. \(thumbs u

Keep in mind of course that various books possess various motivations to slab.

Amazing Fantasy #15 for instance is the most iconic book of the entire SA. Slab collectors will want to send raw copies into CGC for a resto-check, verification of grade, etc. Re-sale incentive also exists, though this is pretty much true for any book, no doubt that "sellers" will want to maximize their return on investment through third party grading.

I'm going to generalize here, but collectors seeking a TTA #35 for instance, might be more interested in the book for the book as opposed to investment-potential. The two pretty much go hand in hand, but my point is that more popular and liquid books are more likely to be slabbed, thus skewing the perception of "rarity".

Popularity will drag existing copies out of the woodwork and into the hands of CGC for slabbing. If TTA #35 suddenly reached (for whatever reason, however unlikely) the value-rate of AF #15, the census figures would increase dramatically.

Still, for slab-collectors in a SA market who prefer their books to be graded by CGC, census figures do give us an idea of "rarity" in respects to the availability of already-slabbed copies.

You're going to have a tougher time finding a Journey Into Mystery #83 than an X-Men #1. That's just how it is.

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#5516860 - 03/12/12 01:26 AM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: Wayne-Tec]
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Just some additional information for reference.

The following are (I believe) record sales for some of the top SA Marvel books.

Amazing Fantasy #15
Grade: CGC 9.6 (Off-White Pages)
Sold for: $1,100,000

http://www.comicspriceguide.com/blog/pos...1-Million!.aspx

Fantastic Four #1
Grade: CGC 9.4 (White Pages)
Sold for: $300,000

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/18/metropolis-sells-a-fantastic-four-1-cgc-9-4-for-300000/

Avengers #1
Grade: CGC 9.6 (Off-White Pages)
Sold for: $250,000

http://www.cgccomics.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=1435

Journey Into Mystery #83
Grade: CGC 9.4 (White Pages)
Sold for: $222,200

http://www.comicspriceguide.com/blog/pos...ee-Comics!.aspx

Tales of Suspense #39
Grade: CGC 9.4 (Off-White Pages)
Sold for: $147,500

http://www.cgccomics.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=1149

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#5517225 - 03/12/12 10:35 AM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: Wayne-Tec]
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This is why I am part of this message board,the info on here by the big players in the hobby are by far the best.Keep up the good work.
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#5517427 - 03/12/12 11:57 AM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: oakman29]
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Cool idea for a thread \(thumbs u

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#5517947 - 03/12/12 03:16 PM Re: Marvel's Silver Age Hierarchy of 2012 and Beyond [Re: ngh81]
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Hey, no love for Strange Tales 110?
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