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#5502679 - 03/06/12 08:11 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: sckao]
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#5502691 - 03/06/12 08:20 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: comiconxion]
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 Originally Posted By: comiconxion
Having been the one to have first "discovered" the Gobbledygook counterfeits back in the 90's, I can tell you for sure that the two books discussed (the $23k 9.8 book and restored 9.0 on eBay) are definitively not 1st printings from the scans that have been provided. I'd be willing bet a real first printing. They are one of the following:

1) Misidentified 3rd printings


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2) Doctored 3rd printings (with the printing infomation erased)




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3) Counterfeits with new a new cover that was shot off a 3rd printing




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4) Cracked open cases - Someone cracked open the case for a 1st printing and replaced it with a 3rd printing




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The only way may be to open one of the books in question to find out what it is. But, I can tell you I've known about the extra blood spot in the logo for years and it is an easy way to spot a 3rd printing at a distance.

The interiors of #1's are also slightly different. A lesser known fact is that each if the first three printings is a slightly different size (as are the 1st and 2nd printings of #2). I believe the 3rd printing is actually more narrow than a 1st printing. And, the interior grey tones on the 3rd printing are more washed out than the 1st and 2nd printings. These are some additional things to look for if you were to authenticate a 1st printing and didn't want to rely only on the cover.

I think that owners of these books should work with CGC to help solve this mystery. We're all speculating until someone can examine them in more detail. If someone has tampered with one of the CGC cases, CGC should be able to inspect it first hand and confirm this. If the owners crack open the cases themselves, we may never get to the bottom of things. But, I think it's important that the results be shared publicly so that people can be assured that they have a first printing inside books that are certified.

 Originally Posted By: USArmyParatrooper
So what's the final verdict on this? Are those for sure misidentified 3rd prints?

I hope someone from CGC can weigh in on this, because I'm currently shopping for a 1st print and I'm putting a lot of trust in their slab.

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#5502702 - 03/06/12 08:24 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: RockMyAmadeus]
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#1 is the most damaging to CGC as that would indicate they missed many clear signs of a third printing. I personally hope that's not the case...
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#5502750 - 03/06/12 08:45 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: sckao]
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OK, so now I can fairly easily identify a 3rd printing while slabbed.

How about 2nd print? If I buy a CGC graded copy is it pretty much a prayer at this point that it's not a mislabeled 2nd print?
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#5502762 - 03/06/12 08:49 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: USArmyParatrooper]
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#5502779 - 03/06/12 08:57 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: sckao]
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 Originally Posted By: sckao

#1 is the most damaging to CGC as that would indicate they missed many clear signs of a third printing. I personally hope that's not the case...



You are not kidding. I hate to think this even took place on any book, let alone a high-profile book like this that would get loads of press.

It would be great if this was an early April Fools joke delivered early. But at this point, I don't think so.

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#5502801 - 03/06/12 09:11 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: Bosco685]
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Well I posted a question in the "Ask CGC" section with the hopes they will address it. It's subject to moderation so we'll see if it makes the light of day.

Hopefully they'll provide some of re-verification of existing 1st prints, and compensation for those who had mislabeled ones.
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#5502911 - 03/06/12 10:23 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: USArmyParatrooper]
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#5502969 - 03/06/12 10:45 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: Stronguy]
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#5503125 - 03/06/12 11:38 PM Re: Ninja Turtles - Differences Between Printings? [Re: PeasOfCrap]
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