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Originally Posted By: nickwire
this might be the most interesting thread ive read in a while. ive never subbed before so i dont know, but are there any wavers or anything of the like you sign to disolve cgc of responsibility for things like this? thats a huge chunk o change for a potential 3rd print
Nope - if someone paid $23k for a mis-labelled 3rd print, my crystal ball foresees a rather hefty lawsuit against CGC
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Yea.....this is bad. As mentioned a number of times already, the extra red splotches indicate a 3rd printing. That 23K book...well, something ain't right. Either the guts of a crappy legit copy of #1 were married to a pristine 3rd printing cover (witch CGC somehow missed) or they somehow missed printing annotation and the lack of Gobbledygook ad.
I will say this, though, the only "authoritative" way to be certain of a 1st printing, is to look inside. The red splotches is something of an outside observance and, to my knowledge, is not something that either Eastman or Laird has said is valid way to tell; they've alway's said to look inside (to looking at printing words, address, gobbledygooks, etc.). That said, I've only ever personally seen 3rd printings with blotches, and 1st & 2nd have never had them. Looking at my printings right in front of me, they all follow that same pattern as well...
Here's a question. If the "3rd Print" was inadvertently left off the label, if you call in the serial number will it come up as a 3rd print in their database?
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Originally Posted By: USArmyParatrooper
Here's a question. If the "3rd Print" was inadvertently left off the label, if you call in the serial number will it come up as a 3rd print in their database?
If you look up the serial number, it'll give you the same info that's on the label.
The only instance where I've ever seen a discrepancy between the label & a certification lookup was with a Qualified book that had a blue label; when you looked up the serial number, it showed you that the book was supposed to have had a green label (all the info on the label would have been the same, though).
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The ones that we've seen are dated 1984. The 3rd printings came out in 1985 and typically they are denoted with the Month and Date of publication. 2nd printings are also typically denoted with the revised Month. So, I doubt these would show up as 3rd printings even if that info. was inadvertantly left off.
Originally Posted By: USArmyParatrooper
Here's a question. If the "3rd Print" was inadvertently left off the label, if you call in the serial number will it come up as a 3rd print in their database?
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