Thanks, all. And thanks, telerites, for another good example.
I purposely avoided including personal opinions in my lead-off post. However, at this point, I’d like to say that I was quite surprised by many of the things I saw. Here are some examples of Blue Label books with a detached centerfold (the Aquaman #46), a blown staple, or a completely detached cover:
According to these examples, a pristine book with a detached centerfold can receive a Universal Grade as high as 9.4, a lightly worn book with a blown staple can grade as high as 9.0 to 9.4, and a book with a completely detached cover can grade as high as 4.0. WTF? In my world, a book that's essentially flawless aside from a blown staple has always been a FN/VF. No wonder I have so many repeat buyers!
The Superman #172 and Aquaman #46 books above should be a QUALIFIED 9.2 and 9.4, respectively.
The key visual being that the defects on the label are described in ALL CAPS, which is only for Qualified defects.
I have seen other books where the label color was wrong but the census had it correct. From the Superman 172, though, the label is blue and the census lookup shows that in fact it was graded as universal.
#4427216 - 12/01/1012:26 AMRe: An In-Depth Comparison of Green Label and Blue Label Grading
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Thanks, all. And thanks, telerites, for another good example.
I purposely avoided including personal opinions in my lead-off post. However, at this point, I’d like to say that I was quite surprised by many of the things I saw. Here are some examples of Blue Label books with a detached centerfold (the Aquaman #46), a blown staple, or a completely detached cover:
According to these examples, a pristine book with a detached centerfold can receive a Universal Grade as high as 9.4, a lightly worn book with a blown staple can grade as high as 9.0 to 9.4, and a book with a completely detached cover can grade as high as 4.0. WTF? In my world, a book that's essentially flawless aside from a blown staple has always been a FN/VF. No wonder I have so many repeat buyers!
The Superman #172 and Aquaman #46 books above should be a QUALIFIED 9.2 and 9.4, respectively.
The key visual being that the defects on the label are described in ALL CAPS, which is only for Qualified defects.
I have seen other books where the label color was wrong but the census had it correct. From the Superman 172, though, the label is blue and the census lookup shows that in fact it was graded as universal.
So then it is a mistake on the label and the census? Surely no book could grade a 9.2 with a cover detached at one staple, right?
I would think they could put unwitnessed sigs in a blue label as well, just note that it was verified by a third party with a COA.
Never.
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I suppose COA's can be forged though
Exactly.
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The key visual being that the defects on the label are described in ALL CAPS, which is only for Qualified defects.
Is this information anywhere on the CGC website?
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#4432884 - 12/03/1006:30 PMRe: An In-Depth Comparison of Green Label and Blue Label Grading
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Thanks, Ze-man. This has always been my favorite forum. I'm not sure this thread is on par with the incredibly educational Comic Production Flaws and How to Spot Restoration threads, but I certainly appreciate the kind thought.
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