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Well upon reading pg 41 of the Warren Companion, Warren specifically mentions the blue staples, that is why I am a bit confused. Why mention the special staples in the flyer and specifically "Blue" staples if it was all just showmanship?
You just answered your own question. Warren is answering a question about stopping the counterfeiters and mentions that that money could have exchanged hands before the kid found out it was a fake, only when Overstreet mentioned years later that about the printing differences and the blue staples that people were saved from the counterfeit copies. He was implying there that the blue staple copies were the counterfeits.
Notice he also mentions right before that about couriers waiting to take copies of Eerie #1 that he had printed for copyright purposes to newsstands to make sure some copies were sold. Those are the sold copies mentioned in the flyer/ad. Nothing in there about a second printing being made.
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I think this has turned out to be a great thread and some much needed action for the Mag Forum. I still want more info on the printing process for the ashcan and the second print, so I PMd RonKasman to see if he a has anything to add. Hopefully with that answered we can refer to this as a definitive thread for Eerie#1.
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I agree, pretty good thread and much needed for the mag forum.
Truth be told, I got my copy in a group of Eerie's and it was just a bonus since one of the books graded out a 9.8, which made it worth it to me for the whole lot. So no, I am not worried or concerned about the outcome.
I do find it interesting though about the staples, and the fact Warren mentions them in a couple of locations. Heck, being a showman with a flair for the dramatic, I would not put it past him to have actually printed the second copy just so he could make news. (maybe not, but anything is possible)
Whoever printed it, definately had the original film, and access to a printer.
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Well, during all this, I emailed Doug Sulipa and this is his response:
I only had one copy of Eerie #1 and that was in the Mid 1980's. If my memory serves, the copy that i did have, had that strange 1/4" blue strip on the staples, so i must have been the elusive 2nd Printing. But i think the 2nd prnting is actually lower print & scarcer than the 1st printing, that might explain why it is so hard to find. Thanks! .... DOUG
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Hmm, got an interesting email from Doug a bit ago.
I recall when it was offered to me in the 1980's, wondering if it was the Counterfeit copy. But the fellow who sold it to me had a used & torn Warren mags mailing envelope with it & that convinced me it was an Original. I have seen mostly 1st printings for sale over the last 30 years, with only a few 2nd printings. I have never seen an identified Counterfeit copy for sale. Doug
Ze plot thickens I still don't get the special staples and paper in the reward flyer either, the original printing did not have those features.
What is 'line repro printing'? I googeld the term but couldn't find a good explanation.
I used to do this kind of work, back in the day when I was a stripper
"line repro printing" uses line art, i.e. art that is converted into lines or dots with no actual continuous tones or "grays".
This was done using a graphics (or stat) camera, whereby art could be photographed and converted into line-art using film with special screens overlaid that converted the resultant image into line art - hence the term line repro printing.
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Ah yes, the great days of stat cameras, rapidographs, and screens. Thanks for reminding me how old I am Nothing quite like the bright light of a stat camera when you have a hangover. I miss them at times, not a lot, but a little, I was never a stripper, my folks wouldn't allow that.
I hope you realize how difficult it was for me to resist posting an inapproriate picture.
Thanks for the links to the other threads. Very interesting.
Heritage sold one in 2006 they say was a 1st print. No provenance was mentioned. I wonder who authenticated it? I've sent an e-mail to see if they would still consign one and if so, under what conditions. I couldn't find any sales from clink.
Ah yes, the great days of stat cameras, rapidographs, and screens. Thanks for reminding me how old I am Nothing quite like the bright light of a stat camera when you have a hangover. I miss them at times, not a lot, but a little, I was never a stripper, my folks wouldn't allow that.
I hope you realize how difficult it was for me to resist posting an inapproriate picture.
Of course stripper refers to stripping film to burn printing plates. It was always fun telling people I did shipping for a living. But I'm dating myself
But seriously guys, this has been a great thread to follow - very informative and thought-provoking.
