Registered: 06/23/03
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There are several threads (very old ones now) on the mag board discussing this issue.
Without a provenance you will never prove beyond a doubt the items authenticity.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C. S. Lewis
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Interesting reads, however to say the second print was the counterfiet is not quite correct.
From what I have read, the second print was put out by Warren in 1965 due to clamor from the fans, many were unhappy that the first issue was not available. He printed some just to make them happy, which explains why the bald guy on page 18 is clearly visable, if it was a copy from the original, how would he be there?
If you read the $500 reward that Warren ran, it clearly states that in 1965 they produced and sold a limited number of Eerie #1 with special staples and paper. Also they are 5 1/4 by 7 1/4, this is the second printing refered to in overstreet. (mine fits all the criteria, the paper is nice, just not sure what is special about it)
I bought my copy from a collector, he had many Warren items of interest, even some Blazing Combat cover proof sheets. (which he gave me one from BC #2, and I think one from BC #3, but I can't seem to locate it right now) He even owned the cover art from Creepy #5 at one time, but sold it before I found him, otherwise my house would be in a second mortgage right now. (not the greatest of the Frazetta covers, but I would love to own it, I have a photo somewhere around here of it in the frame that he sent me)
He also gave me one of these green Reward posters, however it seems to be printed on some type of fairly thick card stock, not regular paper.
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There was no second print published by Warren. That is incorrect.
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I understand the staples could come from anywhere, but what's the deal with the clearer image of the "bald man"? I've never seen either copy in person, just find this interesting.
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The ad you linked is referring to issue 2 which was sold as a collector's edition by Warren. The term second printing in relation to Warren's Eerie #1 refers solely to the 'original' counterfeit whcih is now collectible itself due to it's place in Warren history. However, it can be easily duplicated and suffers from the same authentication issues as the actual Warren Eerie #1.
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Originally Posted By: Makmorn
Well, explain to me how a guy with a copier made the bald guy suddenly appear in the second print, when he was not visible in the first print?
Because the second print was made from the ashcans source and not simply a copy of the ashcan. For this reason many people (including me) assume that the counterfeit came from someone inisde Warren publishing. Jim Warren has hinted at this as well and that he had a strong suspicion regarding exactly who was behind the counterfeit.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C. S. Lewis
