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#5674573 - 05/11/12 11:22 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: The_Black_Hand]
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#5674612 - 05/11/12 11:40 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: Dover]
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#5676195 - 05/12/12 06:13 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: The_Black_Hand]
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 Originally Posted By: The_Black_Hand
Care to explain what's so funny?
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#5680320 - 05/14/12 02:35 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: Mr 9.8]
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Michio Kaku on Spent Fuel Pool No. 4: People don’t realize it’s on a knife’s edge — Near the tipping point (AUDIO)

http://enenews.com/kaku-on-spent-fuel-po...ing-point-audio

http://enenews.com/physicist-unit-2-comp...ear-power-video
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#5681148 - 05/14/12 07:32 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: Mr 9.8]
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http://enenews.com/professor-shocked-cor...-meltdown-video
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#5688512 - 05/16/12 09:40 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: Mr 9.8]
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Just an interesting video of various Japanese peoples opinions on this situation.
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#5694491 - 05/18/12 05:49 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: Mr 9.8]
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hm
Debris from Japan perhaps?

Rocks Found on Beach Mysteriously Catch Fire in Woman's Pocket

A California mother is recovering from second- and third-degree burns after colored rocks her family collected from a southern California beach unexpectedly caught fire while in her shorts pocket.
"We were talking about who was going to pick up the babysitter," Lyn Hiner said today on "Good Morning America." "And all of a sudden something hot on my leg just sort of started to bother me so I started thinking it was a bug bite, so I started slapping it and the next thing I know my pants were on fire."
The harmless-looking, green- and orange-colored rocks, which Hiner's daughters found Saturday on San Onofre State Beach in southern California, are now the subject of an intense scientific investigation.
Hiner, 43, had put the rocks in her pocket after they left the beach. As she and her husband, Rob Hiner, were preparing to go out later that evening, the rocks suddenly erupted in her pants.
Rob Hiner, who appeared on "GMA" alongside his wife at the Santa Ana, Calif., burn center where she is being treated, said the couple had no idea what was happening.
"It was just this bright intense flame," he said. "We didn't know what it was. Our first response was just to try to pat it out.
"But, In trying to pat it out, it wasn't going out so the next thing was just to try and drop and roll and eventually we just tried to tear her shorts off and got them off of her," he said.
Fire authorities responded to smoke alarms in the couple's home that were set off because the flames in Lyn Hiner's pockets were so intense.
"There were actual flames coming off of her cargo shorts," Orange County Fire Authority Capt. Marc Stone told ABC News. "The husband was outside with a garden hose, actually trying to cool her leg down."
The couple were eventually taken to the Grossman Burn Center, where Lyn Hiner continues to recover from the severe burns on her hands and leg.
"I've never seen anything like this," her doctor, Dr. Andrea Dunkelman, said today on "GMA." "She has third-degree burns, which means that it's been burned all the way through her skin to her underlying tissue, her fat. We treated her by placing skin grafts from her thigh to that area."
Lynn's husband, Rob, suffered burns on his hands in the incident while trying to come to his wife's aid.
"We're exhausted but we're overwhelmed with love and support," Rob Hiner said. "We're just grateful. We're grateful that things weren't worse and God just continues to provide for us in this situation."
Scientists investigating the mysterious explosion say there were seven rocks in total that the Hiner children took from the beach. Field tests found traces of phosphorus -- the flammable orange chemical used in matches -- on the rocks.
"It'll burn right through flesh, bone and skin. I've never heard of anything like this before," Dr. Michio Kaku, author of "Physics of the Future," an examination of science in the coming century, said.
The beach where the rocks were collected is near Camp Pendleton Marine base. But Marine officials say there's no evidence any military materials were involved.
San Diego State University geologist Pat Abbott says this was not Mother Nature's fault.
"I know the orange is not part of the rock," Abbott said. "It's not natural. It's human made."




http://gma.yahoo.com/rocks-found-beach-m...topstories.html
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#5694532 - 05/18/12 06:03 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: Mr 9.8]
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Japan’s Ex-Industry Minister: Neutron radiation is degenerating reactors — Admits he was playing a role when saying nuclear plants were safe

Banri Kaieda, the industry minister during the early stages of the Fukushima nuclear accident, lashed out at former Prime Minister Naoto Kan, saying his meddlesome and heavy-handed ways exacerbated the crisis.

Kaieda, the first politician to speak before the Diet’s Fukushima Nuclear Accident Independent Investigation Commission, described a wide range of emotions in recalling the government’s response to the disaster, including exasperation over miscommunications, sorrow for the victims and fear over what could have happened.

But he showed nothing but displeasure on May 17 when describing his former boss.

“Broad authority must be exercised in a restrained manner,” Kaieda said, when asked about Kan frequently giving direct instructions by phone to Masao Yoshida, then manager of the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant.

Kaieda also acknowledged serious communication problems between the prime minister’s office, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. and the Fukushima No. 1 plant.

It was “as if they were playing a broken telephone game,” he said, referring to the children’s game that shows how information can change the more times it is passed on.

The panel will summon industry minister Yukio Edano, who was chief Cabinet secretary at the time, Kan and Masataka Shimizu, former TEPCO president, before it compiles a report in June.

The Fukushima No. 1 plant lost all power sources when it was hit by the tsunami spawned by the magnitude-9.0 Great East Japan Earthquake on March 11, 2011.

When asked why the government took more than three hours before declaring the nation’s first nuclear emergency situation, Kaieda immediately said, “It took time to gain the understanding of the prime minister.”

Kaieda also said he did not understand the purpose of Kan’s inspection of the Fukushima No. 1 plant on the day after the disaster started.

According to sources, Kan went to TEPCO’s head office early on March 15, 2011, and yelled at company officials, telling them they can never abandon the crippled plant.

TEPCO employees had told the Diet investigation panel that they had a “feeling of strangeness” when they were rebuked by the prime minister.

“I have known Kan for a long time, but it is not surprising if people feel a sense of strangeness when they hear Kan’s 'speech' for the first time,” Kaieda said. “Slightly different expressions could have been used.”

One focus of the investigations into the Fukushima nuclear accident is whether TEPCO planned to pull out all its workers from the plant at a crucial stage of the crisis.

TEPCO Chairman Tsunehisa Katsumata earlier had told the Diet investigation panel that the utility never considered a total withdrawal.

But Kaieda said on May 17 that Shimizu told him on the phone that TEPCO would evacuate from the Fukushima No. 1 plant to the Fukushima No. 2 plant.

“I do not remember whether the words ‘all (employees)’ were used,” he said. “But I remember that (the conversation was) never on the assumption that some (employees) would remain. Naturally, I understood that all would (leave the plant).”

After his conversation with Shimizu, Kaieda asked industry ministry officials what would happen if all TEPCO employees deserted the plant.

Kaieda said he was told: “It would be disastrous because not only the No. 1 to No. 4 reactors but also the No. 5 and No. 6 reactors would explode.”

Kaieda then discussed the issue with other Cabinet ministers who were at the prime minister’s office.

He said they reached the conclusion: “A (total) withdrawal would lead to a disaster, in which the entire eastern Japan might be lost. We have to ask workers at the plant to hang in there although we feel sorry for them.”

As an example of the poor communications, Kaieda said he told TEPCO to pump seawater into the reactors to cool them on March 12, 2011. But the government decided to reconsider the plan after Kan said the nuclear fuel may again reach a sustaining chain reaction.

In reality, however, seawater injections were never suspended because Yoshida independently told plant officials to disregard the orders from Tokyo.

“I learned about that much later,” Kaieda said.

Kaieda said he also ordered TEPCO to vent reactor containment vessels based on law.

“I left the issue to TEPCO because I thought venting would start soon. But it did not,” he said. “We issued the order and made it clear that the government will take responsibility.”

Kaieda said many things happened when he was industry minister that he must reflect on.

“The words hydrogen explosion were not in my ears. I wonder if (I had been influenced by) the safety myth of nuclear power plants and the cozy relationship of nuclear power village,” Kaieda said.

He also solemnly apologized to victims of the disaster.

“I was later told that some people died--virtually starved--after they remained in a hospital in Okuma (a town in Fukushima Prefecture). They were victims of the accident at the nuclear power plant. I am really sorry,” he said.

Kaieda said the rolling blackouts last year should not have been implemented.

“I thought I would have to resign not only as industry minister but also as a Diet member if someone died (due to the blackouts),” he said.

In June, Kaieda declared that nuclear power plants were safe and said he would approve the restarts of nuclear power plants, with the exception of the Hamaoka nuclear plant in Shizuoka Prefecture.

But he told the Diet investigation panel that he did not believe all plants were problem-free, partly because reactors degenerate due to neutron radiation.

Still, he defended his decision to allow operations to resume at nuclear plants, saying he had a “role to play as industry minister.”

Kaieda also said: “The industry ministry had been too heavily biased in favor of the supply side. I wondered if (the ministry) had not been able to shift to an energy policy administration based more on the demand side.”


In July, three weeks after Kaieda declared that nuclear power plants were safe, the Kan government announced a policy to require stress tests for all nuclear reactors to determine if they were safe enough to be restarted.

Kaieda told the Diet investigation panel that he thought that stress tests were a necessary condition.

In an Asahi Shimbun opinion poll in April, 55 percent of respondents were opposed to restarting two reactors at the Oi nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture, although the government said the results of stress tests were appropriate.

“Opinion polls showed that a majority of people are opposed to restarts,” Kaieda said. “I wonder what we have done over the past year, including myself.”


http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201205180080
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#5695710 - 05/19/12 07:39 AM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: Mr 9.8]
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I sure would like to hear some reports on what is being done about this ticking time-bomb.

Fukushima Reactor 4 poses massive global risk
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#5704929 - 05/22/12 07:20 PM Re: The continuing crisis at Fukushima Dai-ichi [Re: FUELMAN]
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Former Fukushima Daiichi Worker: ‘I believe the country will be evacuated if No. 4 fuel pool collapses’ — ‘Should be hundreds or thousands of people working furiously every day’

http://enenews.com/former-fukushima-daii...ously-every-day

Chris Canine has 15 years experience as a Health Physics Technician, Chemist and Radiation Safety Instructor. He has worked at over 20 plants throughout the United States, Japan and Mexico — including Fukushima #1 and #2 in the late 1970′s.

On May 15, 2012 he wrote:

There are several reasons why I believe the country will be evacuated if the #4 SFP collapses. The amount of radioactive material in the fuel pool dwarfs the total amount at Chernobyl by a factor of 5 to 10. Chernobyl’s core was still mostly contained in a building (although heavily damaged), and most of the radioactive material melted downward and became lava like. If #4 SFP collapses it will be lying on the completely open ground, probably going critical on and off in portions of the pile for years. The dose rate from this pile will make dropping sand or anything from the air much more lethal than anything at Chernobyl. And probably impossible. The entire site at Fukushima will be uninhabitable and unworkable because of the dose rate coming from this pile of fuel. That means there will be no control of the other fuel pools, and we could lose control of them.
Nuclear experts will soft sell the ramifications because that is how the industry works. When the experts “have concerns” about the situation at #4 that means they are pooping their pants. My experience at Fukushima was 30 years ago. I worked in the industry for about 15 years as a health physics technician. I was also referred to as a “nuclear gypsy” because I traveled from plant to plant working outages. That meant I was always in the middle of the hottest jobs in the heart of the plant. The engineers will talk about this part or that part of a plant, but I have been all those places wearing full gear.


He later noted: “No reasonable person with my type experience would question my conclusion if any of the fuel pools collapse. There should be hundreds or thousands of people working furiously every day to get the buildings fortified and the fuel moved.”
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