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#5402744 - 01/26/12 09:09 PM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: Ghost Town]
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 Originally Posted By: Ghost Town
 Originally Posted By: rodan57

It's photoshopped.

Look at the different levels of pixelation.

It's a pretty good photoshop job if that's true. It might just be that the camera was focused on the Marvel Comics #1. And all the other books were not as sharp in the photo.


I tend to agree with this.


Where did you find the picture ? Online, or do you own the original copy ?

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#5402776 - 01/26/12 09:25 PM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: ajaxfarrell]
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It's not a matter of focus but the different size of pixels indicating that they came from different images.
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#5403180 - 01/27/12 12:06 AM Re: a tough choice [Re: ajaxfarrell]
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 Originally Posted By: ajaxfarrell
 Originally Posted By: Ghost Town
 Originally Posted By: rodan57
It's photoshopped.
Look at the different levels of pixelation.

It's a pretty good photoshop job if that's true. It might just be that the camera was focused on the Marvel Comics #1. And all the other books were not as sharp in the photo.

I tend to agree with this.
Where did you find the picture ? Online, or do you own the original copy ?

i found this image on ebay and i don't believe it has been altered. it is an amazing image that looks almost too good to be real with that many key golden age books.
here's the listing and the sellers description:
Type I. New York Times News Press Wire Photo. Measures 8x10". This is part of a collection from a former employee of the UPI in Tribune Towers before this collection was moved to New York. These photos have been part of a working archive for many years and have had many different people removing them from folders. So there are varying degrees of wear on the photos.


there's not much description on the back of the photo except the new york times stamp so i think this photo may not have been published.
it would be interesting to know the background on this photo. could this photo be worth more than what it sold for?


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#5403298 - 01/27/12 12:50 AM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: rodan57]
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 Originally Posted By: rodan57
It's not a matter of focus but the different size of pixels indicating that they came from different images.
The pixels on the comics are larger than other pixels in the photo hm I think your right.

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#5403307 - 01/27/12 01:01 AM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: Junkdrawer]
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 Originally Posted By: Junkdrawer
 Originally Posted By: rodan57
It's not a matter of focus but the different size of pixels indicating that they came from different images.
The pixels on the comics are larger than other pixels in the photo hm I think your right.


No they're not. It just looks that way because the comics have more variation in contrast.
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#5403418 - 01/27/12 02:19 AM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: buttock]
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 Originally Posted By: buttock
 Originally Posted By: Junkdrawer
 Originally Posted By: rodan57
It's not a matter of focus but the different size of pixels indicating that they came from different images.
The pixels on the comics are larger than other pixels in the photo hm I think your right.


No they're not. It just looks that way because the comics have more variation in contrast.


I agree with this. In the enlarged version of the photo, look at the pixels in the boy's collar. Some of them look like that too.

Looking at ebay, the seller specializes in vintage photographs and appears to sell quite a lot of them. To pull off a fake here (and not have the buyer neg you when he gets something different than what was shown) they'd have had to recreate an authentic looking and feeling vintage photo to sell as well. Seems like a lot of work with a high risk of getting called out on it. I'm sure there's a forum full of vintage photo experts out there similar to the level of expertise in this forum.

I think it's legit.
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#5403448 - 01/27/12 02:47 AM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: markseifert]
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So, more interestingly... is the seller's "pre-1950" estimate based on the methods and material used to make the photo I presume? Any other indicators this might be right?
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#5403459 - 01/27/12 03:12 AM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: markseifert]
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 Originally Posted By: markseifert
So, more interestingly... is the seller's "pre-1950" estimate based on the methods and material used to make the photo I presume? Any other indicators this might be right?


Weird Science 11 was Jan/Feb 1952
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#5403463 - 01/27/12 03:23 AM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: AJD]
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 Originally Posted By: AJD
 Originally Posted By: markseifert
So, more interestingly... is the seller's "pre-1950" estimate based on the methods and material used to make the photo I presume? Any other indicators this might be right?


Weird Science 11 was Jan/Feb 1952


Ah, of course. doh\! Thanks.

Still, it's tempting to take this as confirmation that Marvel 1 Octobers were indeed sold in NY (none of the Octobers have publicly known provenance that I am aware of) based on the idea that comics probably moved around a lot less during that era.

But you can't say that for certain here regardless of the exact date. Ah well.

Still an endlessly fascinating photo. Thanks again jpepx for your tireless efforts in this area.
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#5403712 - 01/27/12 09:43 AM Re: 1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST [Re: markseifert]
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the ebay photo sure makes it look like the real deal, pixel inconsistency or not.

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