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#5363867 - 01/10/12 11:05 AM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: BROADSTRUCK]
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Aaron White Satirical, HK-829, SC$1, Copper, Rarity-6



Although not a HTT I've included this in my collection as it is a Satirical issue. Also dated 1837 it shows the HTT era boar in 1857 is no longer running but firmly hung on a butchers hook to trim the fat. Considered a So-Called Dollar it's the only design I know of which does not represent an exposition, or other event in history. It was privately struck by an individual during the times of political and financial crisis in the United States. This example is hard for me to photograph as in hand it is fully mint red proof-like obverse/reverse with trace delicate deep blue patina in the centers of each side which pop when rotated under a light source.

Aaron White Satirical Dollar - Early Civil War Period

Aaron White, eccentric Connecticut lawyer, believed that the financial strain of the War of the Rebellion would bankrupt the United States and that as a result, all paper money, "greenbacks" in particular, would become worthless. He hoarded hard money as insurance against such catastrophe.

When the hoard was examined several years after White’s death, it was found to contain 350 gold and 100 silver dollars, 200 silver half dollars, 5000 2-cent pieces, 60,000 large and 60,000 nickel cents, 250 Colonials, and more than 20,000 foreign coins.

White struck his satirical pieces to show contempt for greenbacks, printed to finance the war. Specie or hard money was so scarce when the war commenced that the government had to print money to meet its needs. White remembered the suspension of specie payments by U.S. banks and the resultant hard times of 1837 and 1857. Also in his memory was the issue by wildcat banks and private concerns of an avalanche of paper money, value of which fluctuated greatly, and much of which was worthless. He wished to refresh the memories of the people to the curses of paper money.


Obverse: Sow, hanging from hook; to l., Sus; to r., Pendens; above, 1837; below, 1857; legend to l., near edge, Never Keep; to r., A Paper Dollar. Line below 1837 and above 1857.

Reverse: Sow, to r., rooting in jar marked $10; above, Sus (sow); below, Toll Ens (rooting); to r., Deux Sous (two sous); to l., Di Oboli (two oboli—small Greek copper coins); legend, near edge, above, in Your Pocket; near lower edge, Till Tomorrow. (Complete motto, from both sides, Never Keep a Paper Dollar in Your Pocket Till Tomorrow.).
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#5366333 - 01/11/12 08:36 AM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: BROADSTRUCK]
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Very nice, certainly does not fit into any other category of token within Rulau at least......

What's it grade?
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#5366749 - 01/11/12 12:28 PM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: Hard Times]
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 Originally Posted By: Hard Times
Very nice, certainly does not fit into any other category of token within Rulau at least......

What's it grade?


Rulau doesn't cover SC$1's this is after all a Satercial 39mm So-Called Dollar. It's second top pop MS63RB, but I used to own the top pop MS64RB along with two of the brass versions. I sold them a couple years along with all my U.S. Merchants to focus solely on HTT's.
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#5366764 - 01/11/12 12:32 PM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: BROADSTRUCK]
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1837 May Tenth "(Substitute For Shin Plasters" HT-67 / Low-48.

Ex: Coinsarefunshouldsellallherhardtimestokenstobroadstruckrightnow \:D




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#5366944 - 01/11/12 01:45 PM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: BROADSTRUCK]
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 Originally Posted By: BROADSTRUCK
1837 May Tenth "(Substitute For Shin Plasters" HT-67 / Low-48.

Ex: Coinsarefunshouldsellallherhardtimestokenstobroadstruckrightnow \:D









I changed my mind........send it back

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#5367949 - 01/11/12 07:09 PM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: coinsarefun]
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 Originally Posted By: coinsarefun
I changed my mind........send it back



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#5371254 - 01/12/12 11:30 PM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: BROADSTRUCK]
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It's such a small world after all... So back in late 2007 I purchased what I thought was a 1837 HT-66A MS64BN May Tenth Shin Plaster hard times token. It didn't fully thrill me for the HT-66 variety but I figured I'd keep it until another came along. Yet in early 2008 when looking at a much higher priced HTT I offered it as a tentative trade and when offered a credit towards my newp higher then what I paid so of course it was gone. Then a few weeks pass and I notice reviewing pics on my PC that NGC wrongly designated it as it was really a HT-67 which just doesn't come well struck or with trace red as it's a very crudely struck token. Yet I wasn't going to try to repurchase mine as it would have cost me dearly to do so. So this year coinsarefun purchases a raw May Tenth Shin Plaster at a local show, sent me a pm, and I instantly mention it's a HT-67. A few weeks pass and surfing the web a bit I find the token she purchased had sold raw in a Goldberg auction as a MS60. So after some consideration as I still do not own an example of this variety we negotiated a deal last week and it was sent my way. Today I was looking to see how it compared to the example I sold in 2008 and about an hour ago found the original 2007 dealers pictures (Black Template) and full slab scan which I had saved on an external hard drive. Well I almost fell out of my seat as it's the same exact token!



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#5371583 - 01/13/12 08:14 AM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: BROADSTRUCK]
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What goes around comes around - I hope CRF made big money on the sell back!
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#5397736 - 01/24/12 06:13 PM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: Hard Times]
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Here is my latest NEWP, it was purchased from Steve Hayden one of the major token vendors. Really nice with rich mint red around the devices. There are several Smith's Clock Establishment tokens with the clock obverse. This is the one of most common of these but hard to find it with mint red in a high MS grade. NGC has slabbed 15 of these in the following grades:

XF45 - 1
AU55 - 2
AU58 - 3
MS62RB - 1
MS63 - 6
MS64 - 2 (including this one here).

The 63's represent some resubmissions trying to get the 64 grade so I have heard, so not many of these exist, and given the quality of this one, it must be among the better ones out there. A small hairline scratch below C in Clock on the reverse may be all there is that keeps this from a 65, it certainly has the luster of a 65 in hand. It may also be a touch of strike weakness is the limit in grade, but since I haven't seen too many of these in hand, I can't tell if this is normal for this die variety or not. Note that the reverse appears to be just a slight bit deeper in brown and red than the obverse does - this is not the image, it really is accurate for the differences between obverse and reverse in hand.

Best, HT








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#5397980 - 01/24/12 07:55 PM Re: Hard Times Tokens - Post Your Images [Re: Hard Times]
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It's a nice example HT \(thumbs u

I've seen about 4 of the NGC MS63BN's and have bought and sold 2 of them.

As far as the only RB designated example, well I've seen that MS62 in hand too...

It's a stripped/skinned turd that turning all kinds of shades of fugly in the holder.

As far as striking weakness limiting the grade these are all crudely and I've never seen a fully struck beyond the normal average example.
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Grades XF40 to MS67 RD, RB, BN.

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