#4658753 - 03/10/11 10:25 PM
Re: Doc Joes Journal
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Doc Joe
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34, hows this
and while we are at it, lets not ignore these covers. Think of all the times Subbie gets a bad rap.
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#4658855 - 03/10/11 10:55 PM
Re: Doc Joes Journal
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Doc Joe
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OK, more rantings from my mind. People see my collection and think WTF, your collection has all the focus of a hungover teenager who forgot his Provigil in a Latin class.
Its not, it has focus, albeit a wide one.
Let me summarize:
1) my kid books, what I read growing up. Yup, odd ball stuff, as you might guess.
- Spidey Super Stories - the first run I ever completed, I remember where I was when it happened, in that hotel opposite Madison Sq Garden in New York. They just had theiir show recently. I clearly remember the dealer said "always happy to help complete a run".
Wow, just to think who might have been there? Was Chuckie carrying around of box of pure white page golden age books trying to charge a whacked out price? Was Zurzolo there with tiny stand hustling a sale? Was Schmell there picking up a 9.8 Avengers, while offering to help a nice lady with her will? Who knows, I was there and I got my book.
I will be the first to admit it - it would never for a second in my mind occur to me to look for a spotless copy, a perfect copy, then to treat it like the Popes testicles, gentle and lovingly place them away from light, water, air whatever. Hells no, this book was for reading, what mattered was I had a complete run, why would you not read the comic?
Thank God for the total psycho children who had the foresight to treat their books like gold so I could buy them years later (at gold level prices).
So, Spidey Super Stories, then Nova, then Invaders.
Invaders I took very seriously, remember I am English (did you know that?), born in the UK, moved to the USA when I was 7 (actually remember on the plane landing in New York thinking "so this is where Superman lives" - seriously).
Nazis just in comics? nonsense, England has plenty of scars from them. At my old hospital when they were making a new building, invariably they would find an old WW II unexploded bomb, German if I remember correctly. When I was there in the 70's the people who were in WW II at say 20 were in their 50's. It was all very real. There were a lot of British comics with WWII stories and heros. You did not grow up to love Germans. (and then I married a woman who spent all her summers in Germany, her Dad was in the Hitler youth (no you did not have choice) and her mother was a German teacher. Oy Vey. So fighting Nazis was serious business, go Invaders. I am thrilled to have been the first to have the complete set in 9.8, I know there is another now, and its a big thumbs up to all Invaders fans.
Howard the Duck - OK I just remember seeing Howie all over the place, the stupid movie, the comics, etc I just remember I did not understand them at the time. And I think it is that that made me want to get a full run now, and of course all the raw issues as well. Again first to a 9.8 run, obviously someone else will have that too, probably soon.
3) Short Bronze Runs - Cheetah loves the bigs runs, I love the small runs, who knows why? Well (1) they are harder to find to be honest (maybe not so much now) but a few years ago when slabbed 9.8 bronze was actually tough, if only because no one was slabbing them. After all who would pay for a 9.8 Red Sonja 10? yoo hoo, over here! Me. (2) they are not going to be impossible to complete in 9.8 (3) more importantly the represent success and failure, I feel like I am looking in on Marvel (and DC) experiments, what can we copy, can we make another Conan like character, how about a Conan woman? shall we introduce another Black Dude? What about a day nurse, wait make that a Night Nurse, How about a Cat Woman, DC has one, lets make one too. Hey Welcome Back Kotter was a successful TV show and Video Games have not really been invented, lets do a comic of it. Same with Isis, for goodness sake put some Headlights on something, it will sell!
Fantastic weird stuff.
4) Jerry Weists (RIP) 100 Greatest comics, well here is a challenge, someone has very kindly picked out what I should maybe collect. Stuff that has importance, the first Woman written comics, the first by a Black writer/artist, the first Crime, Space, Horror comic, the first issue of a book that then went on to be a huge series of an important character. A book that changed the way we look at comics. All with a great explanation as to why this books matters. I know it is an opinion, but it would be a brave sole to go up an argue against any of those books that they are not important, yes you could expand the list (Sweet Jesus I have a book called 1000 comics you must read- Gemma if you make a set of that I will have to harm you). So thats where a lot of seriously cool books came into my collection.
A sampling shown below, thats it for tonight, more later.
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Edited by Doc Joe (03/10/11 11:07 PM)
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#4659955 - 03/11/11 12:58 PM
Re: Doc Joes Journal
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mysterio
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Several reasons, the nature of the rankings, they are just weird, you think you have a nice collection of something out there, well there is someone with a better collection out there almost certainly. (thats obvious with the complete list of books, my collection is a joke compared to what people have out there), every 'Pedigree' out there if slabbed and listed well, it would blow all the top guys out of the water, so a ranking of number 11 (say) means nothing.
I know people, at times myself, who have way over-spent in pursuit of a book for their registry, or to retain a #1 ranking. (or #6 ranking or whatever). Thats pretty silly when you think about it, always bearing in mind what other people have out there not listed.
Even worse...I have seen people with what I consider a fantastic run of books (not a complete run of books but an almost complete run of high grade hard to find beautiful books), and they have been enjoying their #1 ranked status. Clearly that meant something to them, indeed if you have spent years hunting for certain books, what you have put together does mean a lot to you, you have worked hard for that. Well, along comes someone else with one or two insane books in the run, you know how it goes. The person with one or two very high grade books, becomes number 1. The prior number 1 guy, now number two, who could not have afforded those crazy books anyway but sees a diminishment in the value of his set, gets sad, and indeed ends up selling the books off. Purely because they are now number 2. I think thats sad, and a detriment to the hobby. Of course there are charmers on the board that just thinks the now number 2 guy is a *spoon* and should suck it up, but it clearly has affected them all because of some silly ranking system.
So if I am using the registry as a method to keep track of stuff, then I dont need it when I complete a run.
Hey Joe, I have read your posts with a lot of interest. Of course, you are my arch-nemesis when it comes to Super Stories, but I have enjoyed every bit of the hunt and trying to find acquisitions. (And yes, the registry and this competition have driven me to chase upgrades that I wouldn't have otherwise spent the money on, see my recent purchase of the #1.) Of course I have rarely (if ever) come out ahead when we have both gone after a book, but that goes with the territory and I know I'm not the only one with that sob story. I have a huge amount of respect for your set, and it has really set the bar high for me to shoot for. I, for one, would hope that you wouldn't delist the Super Stories set when you are done. For one thing, I don't want to get to #1 that way, and aside from that any completed high grade set compiled with love and respect for the books is a thing of beauty that should be seen by other collectors. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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#4660425 - 03/11/11 04:39 PM
Re: Doc Joes Journal
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Doc Joe
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They are beautiful books, Joe, but some of the distributor's ink stains are massive. I know at least one heavy hitter that probably won't touch them. A few are even so bad I wouldn't have any interest. Do you have any idea if the entire set is this bad?
Im sure the distributors ink was heavy so the books could be found in the stinking snow we have here. But, I did notice that and I wonder how much that will effect sales. Who knows, I know a lot of people care, but a lot wont.
frankly I'm more disbelieving of the corners and edges of this 9.8
http://comics.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7033&LotIdNo=50017#Photo
seriously, I know its chipping and the book came like that, and bindery tears, but still, 9.8, not convinced.
yes this has some serious ink
http://comics.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7033&LotIdNo=50004#Photo
this I could live with
http://comics.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7033&LotIdNo=50024#Photo
usual deal, 5-6K of books, you will have a huge range, all the Savannahs were labeled as 'cream' books but plenty of White Pages in that run of 40K of books.
Edited by Doc Joe (03/11/11 04:40 PM)
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