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Originally Posted By: divad
Originally Posted By: bababooey
I think you've done a great job in these PL threads POV - I know you worked hard documenting all the rules. You've resisted taking the easy road on some nominations, when opposing the mob was the right thing to do. You always state your reasoning clearly yet you are very open minded when considering the opinions of others.
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A probation list for bad transactions is maintained by the community. You are still responsible for your own transactions.
#5599550 - 04/14/1201:31 AMRe: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems
[Re: sufunk]
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Originally Posted By: sufunk
Originally Posted By: oakman29
Originally Posted By: Bio-Rupp
Originally Posted By: oakman29
How would we go about locking the thread from the general population,and only five people having access to it? Would we need to ask Arch for moderator status only in the probie thread?
I've said this before... if you're going to involve Arch or Mods, just ask them to LOCK the words "PROBATION LIST" into the sig line of the offender.
Arch has proven that this lock of a sig line can be done. Then the offending party can't post anywhere without the brand of shame being evident.
Wouldn't be too hard either since there are only 50 or so HOS and Probation list members.
I think that is an excellent idea.
+1
That would be PERFECT!
Everyone realizes that siglines are an option that every member here has the option to turn off right?
Even if the mods would do this, and they won't, it is something that is easily defeated.
I don't really understand the reinvention of the wheel due to one miscreant, Sagat, changing the probation list. I would spend my energy trying to compel the moderators to ban him outright for potentially having a shill account, carebear, that he is trying to pass off as his "roommate ".
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Originally Posted By: Park
I don't really understand the reinvention of the wheel due to one miscreant, Sagat, changing the probation list. I would spend my energy trying to compel the moderators to ban him outright for potentially having a shill account, carebear, that he is trying to pass off as his "roommate ".
Just me though.
Actually Sagat has nothing to do with the reinvention of the wheel.
The thing that made me compile the existing Probation List Rules into a real list was an increase of people just adding people to the Probation List even if they had not fulfilled what was then the standard. While the standard was in place, it was spread out over many instances and never actually compiled. So I figured just spell it out in a Rules list.
#5599749 - 04/14/1208:47 AMRe: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems
[Re: oakman29]
JeffroJeffro Speaking as myself, I don't deserve anything.
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Originally Posted By: oakman29
Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Keep the list as is. There are three people on that list that I personally would feel comfortable with and the other two, not so much.
I wouldn't trust myself with the responsibility. I'm too emotional at times.
Let's not make this more complicated than it needs be. The only reason why we are talking about it is because of one dutch puzzle (SAGAT). We don't need to reinvent the wheel because of one malcontent.
I hope you feel comfortable with me? I don't sell,well only one book to you.Thanks for that.
I'm just making my opinion known. In the grand scheme, it doesn't matter what I alone think. It matters what the majority thinks.
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How would we go about locking the thread from the general population,and only five people having access to it? Would we need to ask Arch for moderator status only in the probie thread?
I've said this before... if you're going to involve Arch or Mods, just ask them to LOCK the words "PROBATION LIST" into the sig line of the offender.
Arch has proven that this lock of a sig line can be done. Then the offending party can't post anywhere without the brand of shame being evident.
Wouldn't be too hard either since there are only 50 or so HOS and Probation list members.
Never gonna happen . . . unless you agree to wear a Scarlet A
If you thought about it for more than 10 seconds (which I know is an eternity of consideration for most of you ) it would be sponsored "branding" - not necessarily a liability that the host company would like to incur.
I've thought about it for 10 seconds and put about 5 into your comments (as always)
If this were the case wouldn't they be risking the same "branding" liability and libel issues for putting someone on a "strike list" or allowing members to post a probation list at all? I mean if they let us do anything on "their" site... aren't they ultimately responsible for all the site content?
I've got 17+ pages of positive "branding" on my cgc board feedback page... which can't be correct because I know for a fact that I've got one boardie (or more ) that wakes up every day dreaming for me to die.
I would compare use of that sig line for this the same as eBay's use of a feedback percentage box. Its in full, public view as well. No eBay member would have a low positive feedback percentage "brand" unless deemed worthy of it by members of that community. And even though that system has its flaws... its still being used after 15+ years.
Using the word "probation list" in a sig line would equate to me the same risk in dealing with someone with a low, postive feedback percentage. Isn't this basically the same?
In either case, if the offender makes right, his standing will improve through either a higher percentage of positive feedback given or removal of a "probation brand". Tomato <> ToeMAAtoWW
And on a side note... I'm reasonably sure that Arch/Mods can disable your ability to enable/disable anything on this site.
- I know you worked hard documenting all the rules. 
) it would be sponsored "branding" - not necessarily a liability that the host company would like to incur. 
) that wakes up every day dreaming for me to die. 
