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#5643208 - 05/01/12 11:23 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: Logan510]
sufunk Offline

It used to at least change but now its just stuck on TOTAL NEWBIE forever.

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Hey, happy Bday man!

Well, apparently its been over a month with at least 2-3 pm's. Thats plenty long enough and enough attempts for me.

This whole, maybe he deleted the pm thing doesnt fly with me either. 1st, who the hell deletes pm's from someone who just hit the in your thread?

2nd, the pm clearly states if someone has removed themselves and the op says that is not the case. For whatever reason, this seller is just ignoring the pm's and not delivering what was up for sale. Imo, he should be outed at this point \(thumbs u
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#5643210 - 05/01/12 11:24 AM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: sufunk]
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 Originally Posted By: sufunk
 Originally Posted By: roulette44
I think the seller should be outed so others can benefit from your experience. Goal of this thread is more about minimizing issues going forward (atleast that's how i view it!)


DEFINITELY!

When i hit the , i expect to receive the book. Thinking you already have it, you can pass on another copy, a different book, whatever only to find out 30 days later that the seller has decided to just blow it off and not sell.

That certainly isnt cool in my book and would be a seller i'd avoid. If i buy something, i expect to receive it \(shrug\)



Got to agree.

If you took the time to follow the sellers instructions and put up a sign in the thread... you should be the winner of what was being sold.

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#5643441 - 05/01/12 01:08 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: Bio-Rupp]
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Registered: 01/30/11
Posts: 2907
Loc: Ohio
I suppose you're right. I just don't like the idea of being responsible for someone ending up in the Probation list and not being able to buy/sell on the site. I don't want them nominated, I'd just like some resolution. Even if the answer is just "I don't want to sell my comics to you". I'd be disappointed, but that would be enough to end it for me. I don't understand being intentionally avoided.

The seller was "cheetah", and the sales thread was here:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5491537&fpart=5

I posted the first "Take It" on 3/4/12, sent the first PM inquiry on 3/31/12, the second on 4/23/12, the third on 4/28/12 and then as suggested earlier here, on 4/29/12 sent an entirely new PM copying the contents of the first PM string in its entirety with a link to the sale and a note saying I was just making sure they hadn't accidentally removed themselves from the previous PM. Only the PM from 3/31/12 was read. Even the new PM from 4/29/12 was not.
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#5643515 - 05/01/12 01:40 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: Benjamin Grimm]
sufunk Offline

It used to at least change but now its just stuck on TOTAL NEWBIE forever.

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 Originally Posted By: Benjamin Grimm
I suppose you're right. I just don't like the idea of being responsible for someone ending up in the Probation list and not being able to buy/sell on the site. I don't want them nominated, I'd just like some resolution. Even if the answer is just "I don't want to sell my comics to you". I'd be disappointed, but that would be enough to end it for me. I don't understand being intentionally avoided.

The seller was "cheetah", and the sales thread was here:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5491537&fpart=5

I posted the first "Take It" on 3/4/12, sent the first PM inquiry on 3/31/12, the second on 4/23/12, the third on 4/28/12 and then as suggested earlier here, on 4/29/12 sent an entirely new PM copying the contents of the first PM string in its entirety with a link to the sale and a note saying I was just making sure they hadn't accidentally removed themselves from the previous PM. Only the PM from 3/31/12 was read. Even the new PM from 4/29/12 was not.




For once, I'll keep my mouth shut and let others say their piece and deal with this. I don't want anything I say misconstrued or thought as me taking it personal because of prior dealings.

I'm sure he'll either see this or someone will pm him and he will respond \(thumbs u
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#5643524 - 05/01/12 01:49 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: sufunk]
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 Originally Posted By: sufunk
Hey, happy Bday man!

Well, apparently its been over a month with at least 2-3 pm's. Thats plenty long enough and enough attempts for me.

This whole, maybe he deleted the pm thing doesnt fly with me either. 1st, who the hell deletes pm's from someone who just hit the in your thread?

2nd, the pm clearly states if someone has removed themselves and the op says that is not the case. For whatever reason, this seller is just ignoring the pm's and not delivering what was up for sale. Imo, he should be outed at this point \(thumbs u


Thank you. I was actually asking as it relates to a couple of situations I've had on these boards, I didn't realize they were this similar. I was honestly asking how long one should wait...it seems that BG certainly waited long enough. In the past I felt I was too new and that the seller(s) were too beloved and had been here for a very long time. So I ended up letting it go since no money actually changed hands...kinda wish I had said something.
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#5643549 - 05/01/12 01:58 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: sufunk]
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 Originally Posted By: sufunk
 Originally Posted By: Benjamin Grimm
I suppose you're right. I just don't like the idea of being responsible for someone ending up in the Probation list and not being able to buy/sell on the site. I don't want them nominated, I'd just like some resolution. Even if the answer is just "I don't want to sell my comics to you". I'd be disappointed, but that would be enough to end it for me. I don't understand being intentionally avoided.

The seller was "cheetah", and the sales thread was here:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5491537&fpart=5

I posted the first "Take It" on 3/4/12, sent the first PM inquiry on 3/31/12, the second on 4/23/12, the third on 4/28/12 and then as suggested earlier here, on 4/29/12 sent an entirely new PM copying the contents of the first PM string in its entirety with a link to the sale and a note saying I was just making sure they hadn't accidentally removed themselves from the previous PM. Only the PM from 3/31/12 was read. Even the new PM from 4/29/12 was not.




For once, I'll keep my mouth shut and let others say their piece and deal with this. I don't want anything I say misconstrued or thought as me taking it personal because of prior dealings.

I'm sure he'll either see this or someone will pm him and he will respond \(thumbs u
Nobody will say anything about any well established members here. The pl is a little funky in that aspect and i feel it only targets a certain group of members but I'm sure cheetah will speak on his behalf and clear it up.

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#5643560 - 05/01/12 02:02 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: Benjamin Grimm]
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Loc: Alberta Canada
 Originally Posted By: Benjamin Grimm
I suppose you're right. I just don't like the idea of being responsible for someone ending up in the Probation list and not being able to buy/sell on the site. I don't want them nominated, I'd just like some resolution. Even if the answer is just "I don't want to sell my comics to you". I'd be disappointed, but that would be enough to end it for me. I don't understand being intentionally avoided.

The seller was "cheetah", and the sales thread was here:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5491537&fpart=5

I posted the first "Take It" on 3/4/12, sent the first PM inquiry on 3/31/12, the second on 4/23/12, the third on 4/28/12 and then as suggested earlier here, on 4/29/12 sent an entirely new PM copying the contents of the first PM string in its entirety with a link to the sale and a note saying I was just making sure they hadn't accidentally removed themselves from the previous PM. Only the PM from 3/31/12 was read. Even the new PM from 4/29/12 was not.


If you don't nominate cheetah for the list he shouldn't go on.

It's a good idea to voice your problems with a buyer or seller because you may just be
the tip of the iceberg and the sooner you get it out in the open the better. Does seem
strange that a long time, BB (big book) collector like cheetah wouldn't want to sell a
relatively common modern book.
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#5643571 - 05/01/12 02:05 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: Benjamin Grimm]
AndyBoBo Offline
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Registered: 04/24/11
Posts: 5069
Loc: Boston, MA
 Originally Posted By: Benjamin Grimm
I suppose you're right. I just don't like the idea of being responsible for someone ending up in the Probation list and not being able to buy/sell on the site. I don't want them nominated, I'd just like some resolution. Even if the answer is just "I don't want to sell my comics to you". I'd be disappointed, but that would be enough to end it for me. I don't understand being intentionally avoided.

The seller was "cheetah", and the sales thread was here:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5491537&fpart=5

I posted the first "Take It" on 3/4/12, sent the first PM inquiry on 3/31/12, the second on 4/23/12, the third on 4/28/12 and then as suggested earlier here, on 4/29/12 sent an entirely new PM copying the contents of the first PM string in its entirety with a link to the sale and a note saying I was just making sure they hadn't accidentally removed themselves from the previous PM. Only the PM from 3/31/12 was read. Even the new PM from 4/29/12 was not.


As an FYI - I purchased some ASM books during his first listing (< issue #300 or something along those lines) and also during the same time you did. I payed separately as he gave me some time to pay for the, then, newly listed books. I received the first batch honestly within 3 days of payment. I have yet to receive the second, but am not at all concerned with the possibility of not receiving my order. Cheetah posted, publically, after the fact that he had some opportunities for his company that needed attention (purchasing of a new office building, I believe) - this was done in a GA/SA sales thread. So, with my previous dealings with him supproting my opinion, I have confidence that this purchase will be completed.

The fact that he has not read nor removed himself from your PMs, leads me to believe you are in the same boat as I.

Your concern is right and most definitely justified, and I do not mean to explicitely or implicitely say otherwise. Just thought I would add to the "probation" discussion with my experience/opinion on this sales thread and seller.

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#5643596 - 05/01/12 02:13 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: spiderphill]
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Registered: 04/24/11
Posts: 5069
Loc: Boston, MA
 Originally Posted By: ASMguyyy
 Originally Posted By: sufunk
 Originally Posted By: Benjamin Grimm
I suppose you're right. I just don't like the idea of being responsible for someone ending up in the Probation list and not being able to buy/sell on the site. I don't want them nominated, I'd just like some resolution. Even if the answer is just "I don't want to sell my comics to you". I'd be disappointed, but that would be enough to end it for me. I don't understand being intentionally avoided.

The seller was "cheetah", and the sales thread was here:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5491537&fpart=5

I posted the first "Take It" on 3/4/12, sent the first PM inquiry on 3/31/12, the second on 4/23/12, the third on 4/28/12 and then as suggested earlier here, on 4/29/12 sent an entirely new PM copying the contents of the first PM string in its entirety with a link to the sale and a note saying I was just making sure they hadn't accidentally removed themselves from the previous PM. Only the PM from 3/31/12 was read. Even the new PM from 4/29/12 was not.




For once, I'll keep my mouth shut and let others say their piece and deal with this. I don't want anything I say misconstrued or thought as me taking it personal because of prior dealings.

I'm sure he'll either see this or someone will pm him and he will respond \(thumbs u
Nobody will say anything about any well established members here. The pl is a little funky in that aspect and i feel it only targets a certain group of members but I'm sure cheetah will speak on his behalf and clear it up.


Not questioning the validity of your opinion, nor arguing with you; but it could be, alternatively, that in order to be respected as a "well established member," that individual as gained the reputation of fulfilling his commitments on these boards.

I understand that many first time sellers and/or "noobies" (even though I hate that classification), are nominated or discussed here - that makes sense though. Those individuals have failed to make a reputation on these boards prior to entering into an obligation here and when they mess up or fail to carry through with their obligations, they are brought to the attention of the community (sooner than that of a reputable member). AND, where many members have not dealt with that new individual, they have no basis on saying an opinion other than what is reported. On the other hand, an established member has a wealth of individuals that would come to their defense (not as their friend, but as someone who has previously dealt with them).

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#5643619 - 05/01/12 02:17 PM Re: PROBATION THREAD - for forum sales problems [Re: AndyBoBo]
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It used to at least change but now its just stuck on TOTAL NEWBIE forever.

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True, but that shouldn't mean that the rules don't apply to them which many times, they don't imo
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