80 is very rare? I would estimate that hardly ANY of the coins I collect have that many in mint state period. Probably only the South Africa QEII and some of the KGVI.
#2996381 - 03/08/0903:48 PMRe: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread
[Re: jgrinz]
BartlesvilleokBartlesvilleok
Bid more or post more... tough one...
Registered: 09/22/08
Posts: 980
Loc: Oklahoma
3CN's both proof and mint.
Many very rare one here that if you had these numbers on other coin series they would be getting a LOT more points.
One example is a 1872 2cent in AU with a mintage of 65,000 gets more points then the 1884 3CN in the same grade and only has a mintage of 1,700. Another example would be 1932d washington quarter that had over 400,000 minted points are about the same as the 1884 3cn in AU
1884 3CN Census total of only 20 in all grades, AU+ 13 1872 Census total of 115 in all grades, AU+ 86 1932d 25c Census total of 1960 in all grades, AU+ 1486
#3198277 - 05/28/0908:01 PMRe: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread
[Re: Bartlesvilleok]
robec1347robec1347
I was posting here when you were in diapers.
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 3901
Loc: Central California
Why are the scores on the Lincoln PR VDB's so low. The combined total of BN, RB and Red VDB's graded by NGC is only 49. In comparison there are close to 200 1912's. A 1909 VDB in 64BN should not be over 700 points less than a 1912 65RB. Even a 1909 VDB 65RB is only 300 points more than a 1912 65RB. If points were converted to dollars, there is no way you would be able to get a 1909 VDB in 65RB for 1912 money. More likely you could buy 30-40 1912's with VDB money. Those points most definitely need to be adjusted.
#3264913 - 06/24/0907:05 PMRe: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread
[Re: robec1347]
dean1345dean1345
The Post-man always rings twice. Uhm... ring ring?
Registered: 08/20/08
Posts: 1857
Loc: texas
I have a 1809 9/6 half cent graded AU58 with a point total of 1066. There are 138 of the 1809 9/6 in NGC Census. I also have a 1809 0/0 half cent graded AU55 with a point total of 847. There are only 6 in NGC Census. Of the six the highest graded is AU58!!! This is a very rare date and gets absolutely no credit for being so. Please review this for me and reconsider the the point status of the 1809 0/0. Thanks for your consideration and please contact me on the final review.
#3270077 - 06/26/0902:10 PMRe: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread
[Re: Architecht]
jackson64jackson64
Up 20 words per minute since I signed up
Registered: 10/04/06
Posts: 1444
Loc: Chesapeake Bay Shore
Too funny, however I have never noticed this thread..I have emailed and filled out the "score change request" link 3 times combined and gotten not even a computerized reply..
Hopefully I will fair better trying this link....
Dear NGC, would you please consider raising the scores on the.....( as per the thread guidelines..)
3. A. it is a date set/series B. Mercury Dime Short Set 1941-1945...specifically the 1945 P, D, & S *star values... C. Fair Market Value: this is hard to determine since the * designation can be subjective depending upon a persons tastes...however I paid over $400 for the 1945P MS67 * coin alone ( I did this so that I would have--most likely--the only collection of complete 1945 P* D* and S*)... D. my reasoning/rationale is that Mercury dime * coins are quite elusive...in fact, the 1945 3 coin combo in MS67* gets less than a 50% point bonus...however by comparison the 1946 PDS Rosie MS67* coins get up to a 300% bonus !!..To top it off, the 1945 MS67* coins are far rarer and more elusive...
Comparison...1946P MS67* Rosie.. jumps from 437 in 67 to 1045 in 67* ( and it is multiples more common than the..) 1945P Mercury MS67*..moves from 237 to 336 ( total pop of 2 with 2 >)..
Your consideration and time are appreciated..and please reply even if it is NO..so that I'll at least know that you have heard my thoughts...thank you, Jackson
#3275909 - 06/29/0912:44 AMRe: Official "Hey please check these scores" Thread
[Re: jackson64]
robec1347robec1347
I was posting here when you were in diapers.
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 3901
Loc: Central California
Originally Posted By: jackson64
Too funny, however I have never noticed this thread..I have emailed and filled out the "score change request" link 3 times combined and gotten not even a computerized reply..
Hopefully I will fair better trying this link....
Unfortunately, you may as well be writing a letter to yourself. I don't think anyone is monitoring this forum and if they are, they certainly aren't giving any feedback or performing any other satisfactory actions.
Hey, could y'all fix the scores for prooflike Franklins? There are a total of 15 known (of all dates), and yet my 1949S NGC MS-64 PL only gets 459 points. I think that is way too low.
Thanks!
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Please include 1928-1936 Half V Half Crowns in the George V set? Also, none of the George VI Crowns are included in the British Crown Type Set. They were not common but they did circulate. Thank you, OT3
---d) The relevant scores and market values (to your knowledge) of the coins
Current Score is only 366 points which is the same as a non cameo BN example.
---e) Any general comments you have about why you think this scoring needs to be changed and to WHAT it needs to be changed. This can take the form of either merely a comment on the underlying market values, OR a specific suggestion for the final score.
This is a POP 1/0 coin with only five total cameo's for the year across all grades and color designations. Cameo's for the series are rare and should be given the appropriate scores that their rarity deserves. What that number is, I'm not expert enough to quantify.
Thank You for your consideration.
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Census total of 115 in all grades, AU+ 86
