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#2973218 - 02/27/09 07:29 AM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: Smilie Puss]
RareSov Offline
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Can someone fix the pictures on this ? I really wanna see this coin \:\)
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#2973220 - 02/27/09 07:31 AM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: Smilie Puss]
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PS great posts supertooth, it is important the result of grading is the TRUTH not anything else \:\)
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#5700037 - 05/21/12 06:11 AM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: jesbroken]
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I wonder if any of the grading services (including NGC) ever considered something like an an OPINION fee. Add a check box on the submission form that states for $10 you can get a detailed explanation of why the coin got a details grade or could not be graded at all. Just think of all the extra money they could rake in along with all the other fees they get these days. It would take a grader less than 10 mins to input an opinion into the computer and then it gets printed along with your receipt and mailed back to you.

MAN that would save so much speculation on OUR part as to why these things happen.

As always the above is just MY OPINION....

Have a great day
Jim

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#5702172 - 05/21/12 09:30 PM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: nemo656]
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 Originally Posted By: nemo656
I wonder if any of the grading services (including NGC) ever considered something like an an OPINION fee. Add a check box on the submission form that states for $10 you can get a detailed explanation of why the coin got a details grade or could not be graded at all. Just think of all the extra money they could rake in along with all the other fees they get these days. It would take a grader less than 10 mins to input an opinion into the computer and then it gets printed along with your receipt and mailed back to you.

MAN that would save so much speculation on OUR part as to why these things happen.

As always the above is just MY OPINION....

Have a great day
Jim


What financial incentive is there for NGC to do this, when many people fail to see the problem. As a result, they submit the coin multiple times, allowing NGC to acquire the same fee multiple times. This sounds wonderful for NGC to me.
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#5720503 - 05/27/12 08:23 PM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: coinman_23885]
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I think its a good idea I just had a Trajan Sestertius I paid $35 to get graded and they came back with tooled.I have no idea where the tooled areas are as its a nice coin and was suprised to see that happen.I looked at it again todat trying to figure out where the problem is and I did not see it.I would pay $10 for an explanation or the fact that they looked at it and did nothing and still charged me $35 is a bit of a rip off as the time it would have taken them to put into a holder etc they could have given a detailed explanation as to why and where the problem is.
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#5747426 - 06/06/12 12:10 PM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: adrian]
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It would take a grader less than 10 mins to input an opinion into the computer and then it gets printed along with your receipt and mailed back to you

And during those 10 minutes that is 20 coins (or more) he didn't grade. 20 coins at $17 a coin is $340 income loss for your $10 explanation. Now if you would like to pay them say $400 for an explanation I'm sure they would probably be willing to give you that ten minutes.
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#5783710 - 06/19/12 05:11 PM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: Conder101]
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 Originally Posted By: Conder101
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It would take a grader less than 10 mins to input an opinion into the computer and then it gets printed along with your receipt and mailed back to you

And during those 10 minutes that is 20 coins (or more) he didn't grade. 20 coins at $17 a coin is $340 income loss for your $10 explanation. Now if you would like to pay them say $400 for an explanation I'm sure they would probably be willing to give you that ten minutes.


You really don't want to know how little time it takes them to grade your coins. Pretend it's 1 minute. So if you want something like this, charge a flat $15 per coin, only if it doesn't come back graded. You'll get a very sparse response of one or more problems or problem areas, and will have bought about another 10 seconds of viewing time, and 10 seconds to enter into their computer. Not worthwhile to them. Now if this fee is paid in advanced and non-refundable it sounds great to them, as on some % of their submissions they're just making an extra $15/coin.
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#6427127 - 02/21/13 05:48 PM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: L1ncolnF4n]
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I had same thing happen to a 1919 Buffalo nickel that I thought would grade no problem in the MS grades; you guess it, the mysterious "wheel mark" notation. Same thing at PCGS.

Some day we will be able to buy an optical scanning tool that you will be able to aim at a coin and it will link up with an exhaustive database on the internet and then show on the image window approximate grade and any problems like this. It would save us all a lot of problems.

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#6468771 - 03/05/13 02:43 PM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: coinman_23885]
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 Originally Posted By: coinman_23885
 Originally Posted By: nemo656
I wonder if any of the grading services (including NGC) ever considered something like an an OPINION fee. Add a check box on the submission form that states for $10 you can get a detailed explanation of why the coin got a details grade or could not be graded at all. Just think of all the extra money they could rake in along with all the other fees they get these days. It would take a grader less than 10 mins to input an opinion into the computer and then it gets printed along with your receipt and mailed back to you.

MAN that would save so much speculation on OUR part as to why these things happen.

As always the above is just MY OPINION....

Have a great day
Jim


What financial incentive is there for NGC to do this, when many people fail to see the problem. As a result, they submit the coin multiple times, allowing NGC to acquire the same fee multiple times. This sounds wonderful for NGC to me.
it is what it is ( this time for ngc )

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#6784335 - 06/16/13 10:44 AM Re: WYNTK---NGC Rejected for Wheel Mark [Re: jesbroken]
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While I find this post informative the photos are no longer available for the coin which is spoken of. Probably old post but, still of value. Hence, I feel I am missing a lot without not being able to view the coin of topic. Therefore, I would recomment that the post be removed.

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